Direct Injection VE Series 2 or VF?

[1991_Vn2nV]

340NM of torque on the alloytec 190 is still pretty decent imo. And torque is available much lower in the rev range than the previous models.

Hasnt anyone noticed the VE's max torque range? 2600rpm or so

 

[andyman]

the falcons have something like 385nm of torque, holden still a little behind on that one

 

[Scotty_Doesn't_Know]

It's not the amount of torque, but its availability through the rev range that is important...

 

[J_D]

Imagine how much torque it would have if it was a long stroke engine.
The VE is 94.0mm bore and 85.6mm stroke, which doesnt make for a very tractable engine.

 

[1991_Vn2nV]

Well the stroke is basically the same as the 3.8L engines which were an 86mm stroke.

 

[Full Spectrum]

DI in VF for Orion spoil the party with DI 215kw 360Nm 9.5l/100 and a new 6 speed auto for the V6.

 

[1991_Vn2nV]

The Orion might have direct injection also though?

Direct injection and alloy block as well is my bet for the Orion 4.0L..

 

[drewins]

Why will they call it Orion? Toyota Aurion anyone?

 

[Full Spectrum]

The Orion might have direct injection also though?

Direct injection and alloy block as well is my bet for the Orion 4.0L..

They could but i doubt it would do much good. I was told by a little birdy that Ford Oz would use a V6 engine 2morrow if they could only get decent power and torque from it.

Why will they call it Orion? Toyota Aurion anyone?

It's like a code name. Others used a copperhead hammerhead.

 

[klaw81]

I was told by a little birdy that Ford Oz would use a V6 engine 2morrow if they could only get decent power and torque from it.

Straight 6 or V6 makes absolutely no difference to power and/or torque. As far as efficiency goes, there's no noticeable difference. Ford hasn't used a V6 in a Falcon simply because there's hasn't been a suitable V6 block to work with, and it costs way too much to develop a new one from scratch. Besides, their whole chassis architecture is set up for a straight 6.

There are advantages and disadvantages to using a V configuration.
A V6 needs a short, wide engine bay and can be positioned further behind the front axle for better weight distribution.
A straight six needs a long narrow engine bay but is much easier to balance for smooth running.

Mercedes & BMW have the same argument - Mercedes things V6's have more advantages, BMW is sticking with the straight 6.