Do VF commodore still suffer from timing chain issues ?

[Mybeans]

I have a VZ thinking of buying a VF but not sure about it due to timing chain issues which I ended up having to pay a lot to fix in the VZ.

Thanks.

 

[lmoengnr]

Shouldn't be a problem if its maintained properly.

 

[stooge]

if you mean issues by having to do the "chain" every about 150,000km that is normal.
if you mean the early alloytec issue in the ve's then as far as I know that was corrected around 2008.

 

[Mybeans]

if you mean issues by having to do the "chain" every about 150,000km that is normal.
if you mean the early alloytec issue in the ve's then as far as I know that was corrected around 2008.

Doesn't fixing the timing chain cost something like 4 grand ? So you need to do that every 150k ?

I mean if you don't fix it the chain blows up and you need to replace the entire engine. I payed 5 grand for a replacement engine in my VZ commodore about 5 years ago.

 

[stooge]

Doesn't fixing the timing chain cost something like 4 grand ? So you need to do that every 150k ?

I mean if you don't fix it the chain blows up and you need to replace the entire engine. I payed 5 grand for a replacement engine in my VZ commodore about 5 years ago.

a timing belt or chain needs to replaced on every vehicle that has one roughly every 100,000 to 150,000 km.
the early ve alloytec did have an issue of premature stretching which caused problems but I have not seen anything in the vf range because they addressed that issue somewhere in 2008/2009.

to your original question:
no I don't think you will have timing chain issues with the vf range apart from the normal maintenance.

 

[tml678]

a timing belt or chain needs to replaced on every vehicle that has one roughly every 100,000 to 150,000 km.

A belt certainly, but a chain every 100K-150K? I wouldn't have thought that to be the case. Most should be last the life of the vehicle (assuming timely and correct engine maintenance). Exceptions exist of course such as the early alloytecs. But these related to an essentially defective product.

 

[stooge]

A belt certainly, but a chain every 100K-150K? I wouldn't have thought that to be the case. Most should be last the life of the vehicle (assuming timely and correct engine maintenance). Exceptions exist of course such as the early alloytecs. But these related to an essentially defective product.

you can hold out longer for a chain but over time it will still stretch(wear) enough to need a replacement.
its like anything that is a major moving part in that it will need replacing eventually, it just depends on how far you are willing to push it.

 

[Mybeans]

So basically an engine which has maintenance costs, say $4,000 to "replace" chain after 100,000 to 150,000 kms ? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love holden and the VF is awesome but with that kind of maintenance costs I really can't justify it. That would absolutely shatter resale values.

 

[tml678]

So basically an engine which has maintenance costs, say $4,000 to "replace" chain after 100,000 to 150,000 kms ?

No. If you happen to get an alloytech that has the known timing chain problem, you're looking at around a $1500ish fix, as a one off. Considering you're after a VF however, where the issue has been sorted, as long as proper maintenance is carried out (ie timely oil changes) you won't be changing chains at anywhere near 100k-150k intervals.

 

[Anthony121]

So basically an engine which has maintenance costs, say $4,000 to "replace" chain after 100,000 to 150,000 kms ? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love holden and the VF is awesome but with that kind of maintenance costs I really can't justify it. That would absolutely shatter resale values.

Its about half that by Holden and cheaper if you use your own mechanic.