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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by bigfut, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. bigfut

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    Question for anyone who has a ve on lpg, or knows about it

    Is a doughnut tank possible, with the whole plastic boot floor thing, or do you have to have a tank in behind the back seat? Looking at getting the lpg injection system in our ve, and the installer was unsure on the doughnut tank.

    Also how are your cars running on this system? Its meant to be dyno tuned once the lpg system is installed, so looking forward to the results.
     
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    I have just purchased an international with LPG. I believe it is only available as the behind the seat job it is 73 liters (usable) I do not think you would get 73 liters out of the donut tank if it could be used. This will be my third LPG vehicle and I hope the best because the engine is factory prepared to run on the gas and the injector type system is the most efficient. I will report further when I get the damn thing , still waiting 15 days now. The gas guage is a nice fit to the dash and the one thing I have not asked but wonder is, does the trip computer calculate gas usage , klm's remaining etc. Time will tell
     
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    when I was searching through the threads lastnight on ve lpg, apparently dtg and litres/100km didnt work, but that was a 2006 thread so maybe its been perfected now, and works?

    But yeah, the doughnut tank would probably be a 60 litreish one, so wouldnt give a big range, but would give me the boot.

    Look forward to hearing from you about how yours goes.
     
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    Thought I would touch base again but sadly I am not in a position to report ANYTHING re LPG at this stage, the reason : I am STILL waiting for delivery its been 3 weeks now and for a factory going to one shift a day from NEXT month you have to wonder why the 3 week wait, anyway it looks like being another week or even 2 yet so the LPG report is on hold till then.:bang:
     
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    Yes you can get donut tanks they have a 50ltr capacity the trip computer will still read for petrol based fuel readings, you can't use the same gauge that i am aware of beacuse liquid injection use a ultra sonic fuel sender/gauge.
    I have vapour injection and it gets good economy 500-550klm's to 70ltr's/$35 and run just like on petrol (power/torque), but i had the chance again i would go the liquid injection for the extra $400.
    Hope that helps a bit!
     
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    Still waiting just at the start of the 5th week now and still no VE International LPG, they do say it arrives at the dealers today and I SHOULD get it tomorrow but that info was only forth coming after I telephoned them yesterday and asked them if my Commodore may be coming from China. :bang:
     
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    A toroidal tank is definitely available, but it holds a lot less (50-60L) than the cylindrical tank (70-75L).

    I don't have a VE but we have a VZ SV6 with basically the same engine (albeit uprated). Pulls just as hard on LPG as it does on (98 RON) petrol with perhaps a little bit more torque in the low to mid-range while running on gas. We get 550km per 75L tank of gas.

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    Is the VE a dual fuel set up ? or dedicated gas now ? if dual fuel the trip computer will only work in petrol mode...
     
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    From what I can see on the net, still dual fuel, but the gauge is a little led thing down by the power/esp button, looks a little but of an after thought if you ask me. Wish they would have it like the vx I had, that was factory dual fuel, but trip computer/fuel gauge etc worked for the gas.
     
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    There's a very good reason why you would want to have two fuel gauges.

    With a dual-fuel engine, you need to have both petrol AND gas in the tanks in order for the gas system to function, as it will always start on petrol and change over to gas (if selected) once the coolant hits a preset temperature. You NEED to know how much fuel is in your petrol AND gas tanks.

    Regards,
    Dave
     
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    Yes it is a dual fuel vehicle if it was dedicated LPG like the Falcon I would not have purchased one, there are just to many places (when going on a trip) where LPG is either very expensive or not available. The gauge consists of a toggle switch to select petrol/lpg and a series of LEDS, 4 green LEDS which indicate 1/4 to Full and a 5th LED which glows red when on petrol and green when on gas. The gauge is a nice fit and is of the same design that was supplied when I fitted a direct injection LPG system to a Landcruiser a few years ago. The VE dual does not have trip computer, it has basics and customized options set by the user but there is no feature that indicates klm per tank, average consumption for petrol or LPG
     
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    Its dual and they get around the trip computer by eliminating some of the features found in the petrol version, it does not give infromation on KLM Per tank etc.
     
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    You are correct and the 09 is the same, its not that it doesn't work they simply don't include the feature on the display, it would be nice to have that feature its something to play with while on the move but I purchased it for the cheaper LPG running costs first and foremost. Thats all I can say for now, the owners manual recommends no LPG for first 500k's so for now its petrol only but I am really happy with the HOLDEN so far, it has a nice driving position and a good feel on the road. The stereo is good as well and it has some nice features that I have not seen in other cars before, the seats are super comfortable and all the controls are well placed and easy to see.
     
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    Well I am finally running the new VE on LPG after the initial 500k's run in on petrol, ran petrol for 750k's actually. As I said previously I have ran a similar gas system in a Landcruiser the gas gauge was identical but with the cruiser the gauge would show one quarter volume used at under 100k's of running, so far I have ran 155k's and the gauge still shows all 4 leds even tho this is just a guide at this stage it could well be that the factory LPG VE can achieve 600 plus and up to 700 per tank. Time will tell more details later. Apart from the gas usage the car in general is a nice unit and my first Holden apart from a HK back in the early 80's. the ride is smooth the cabin is quiet and the seats are comfortable and I love the green dash illumination, sure some say its old fashioned but I reckon the amber (orange) dash illumination used in other makes is a shocka give me the green any day. It has some nice features as well, I like the way you can toggle forward or back a track on a CD and when you toggle back it actually goes back to the previous track and not to the start of the track you are listening to that is a feature I have not seen in other vehicle players before. The electronic key and locking features (in the 09 model anyway) has some nice features as well and the fact that you can turn the key to complete off position yet still operate the windows and steareo is another nice touch. Nice car GMH I'm glad I got one:bow:
     
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    sounds positive, looking forward to hearing how many kms you end up getting out of the tank.
     
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    First tank 498.7 klm's on the nose that's pretty good for a 73 litre tank my old Landcruiser being a V8 got 420 klm's to 450 klm's from a 90 litre tank, I should add that this was the tank as delivered from Holden, they fill the tank to conduct leak tests etc so I can not be certain that the tank was 100% full in the first place. If the delivered tank was full it equates to 14.6 litres per 100 klm's not bad for true on road figures the official figures are 14.2 litres per 100 klm's. Next report after next full tank.:whistling
     
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    A quick question: how loud are the BRC gas injectors on the factory fitted LPG systems? The OMVL injectors on our SV6 are only audible when you lift the bonnet.

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    Well this is my second gas injection vehicle the first being OMVL and I have never heard noise come from the injectors on either of them so I can only answer your question by saying "no there is no noise" unless there is some kind of noise I should be listening for ?
     
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    Ok to close this off and for any interested readers I have ran 3 or 4 tanks of LPG now and on every tank I get 495k's to 500k's and thats for about 69 litres, while it is a 73 litre tank the audible empty sound appears to activate with about 4 litres in reserve. I have no idea how any Commodore runs on an after market LPG system but I can report that the factory version is sweet as, smooth with good power both on LPG and Petrol an absolute treat. :wax:
     
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    Sounds good, thanks for that. Def in the pipeline to get it done now. Just joining the waiting list...
     

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