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Drivers Window Squeak/Rattle

Discussion in 'VY Holden Commodore (2002 - 2004)' started by dtrain, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. dtrain

    dtrain New Member

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    My Vy is lowered as well. It has the FE2 equivalent in it. It was NOT fitted by the factory though. Holden have told me that those fitted with the FE2 will develop rattles as the tougher suspension causes the body to flex more. OK but why only on the drivers side window??? It's 30,000 K service is due in the next couple of weeks so we'll see what the dealers have to say then. I'm not giving up on this though. I wanted one of the cars for so long that i'm not going to let this rattle beat me. Eventually I WILL find the solution, even if I have to rebuild the whole car myself.
     
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    me too!

    Also have/had the same problem in both doors. BUT, after someone very kindly reversed into my drivers side door and it had to have a new skin put on, strangely the squeek has gone from the drivers side? Dont know how this relates to the squeek, it was only the skin replaced not the whole door. Unless the door was removed compleatly and put back on slightly differently?Just waiting for someone to "bump' into the passanger side now! Although not in any hurry of course!
     
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    Just an update i upgraded to a VZ and it does not do it. YET. Well see.
     
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    Another Rattle

    I had a rattle that seemed to come from the drivers door, or the dash near there. :bang:

    Drove me mad for quite a while, until I stumbled on the fact that it was my keys rattling. :rofl:

    At least I hadn't got around to pulling everything apart to try to fix it.
     
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    How many here have tinted windows, and who has not?. I want to determine wether the tinted windows make it louder, It did it in my VS..Got the windows tinted and it would move in the rubber/squeak, it had manual windows, so I would wind it down only a bit and it would stop. As for electric windows, maybe over time the motor doesnt push it fully up into the the rubber thus not sealing it properly? that could be a cause. The 4 yrs I had my VU ute it didn't do it.
     
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    Marks-VY I love cars

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    I did not know this was such a problem. My 2000 VT has a major squeak/rattle although I thought it was due to a accident repair from 2 years ago in the front right corner. I am not looking forward to hearing it from my VY.......shame Holden, shame - that makes it at least 5 model releases without a fix (counting series 1 and 2 with each model). But then again the boot hinges are still preventing the boot from being fully utilised after 9 years........
     
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    Your wish may come true next year with the VE. :)
     
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    Any updates?

    Hi

    Just wondering if anyone has found a solution yet? :bang:
     
  9. Stretcher Bearer

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    One of those rattles is connected to the lock button I've discovered especiallyif replaced and not installed properly.

    I get the rattle but get more agro about the window never quite reaching the top of the frame. I'mgonna break the winder one day. Constant short term fixes on windows/rubbers. Very poor design
     
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    I have a year or so old VY2 with FE2 and the thing flexes and twists over speed bumps, pot holes and steep drive ways. All the windows squeak in their mountings on even the slightest of bumps in the road whilst driving.

    But hey for the price of the car I ain't complaining. If I wanted body ridgity I'd have bought an Audi.
     
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    My parents VX SS has done 90,000 kms and thankfully does not have this rattle you are talking about. It did have a rattle in the steering wheel but was fixed under warranty at about 20,000 kms. We have found that the rattles that do occur are actually bits like coins, keys or other bits we have in the car and when the car is cleaned inside and these items taken out the car is tight and rattle free. So touch wood, hope they dont get the annoying one your talking about
     
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    Well that's the biggest load of dealership rubbish I have heard for awhile!! (Not that I'm surprised) I have a VY R8, now as you know they have a harder riding suspension compared to most Commodore Bodied cars on the road, 96000kms on and not a rattle. I am at a pains to explain all your hardships. but I will now be paying much closer attention to my drivers door to see if indeed I do have this problem, but usually, the worst rattle I get is my Citylink E-Tag on its own bracket! I'll keep you posted!!:D
     
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    What are two things generally in every drivers door?

    The Remote Mirror Controls and the Key lock and tumbler. Perhaps we should be looking at these two items as a possible cause?
     
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    Found the problem.

    Whilst driving along (all windows closed) make a first, poking your thumb out. Place it level with the stored up sun visor.
    Now press the window as hard as you can with your thumb against the glass about 1cm from the top edge.

    You should be pressing on the corner of the window with 10% upward effort the rest sideways.

    Noise gone isn't it :)

    Problem is with the runners or bushings for the window. The window rattles and it sounds like the doors.

    I'll see if Holden will warranty fix this to answer everyones gripes.
     
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    People, I think we have two problems in the one thread here.

    Problem 1 is a squeak from the drivers side WINDOW just by your ear ONLY WHEN THE WINDOW IS FULLY UP. Just 'tap' the electric window switch to slightly lower the window and the sqeak stops.

    Problem 2 is a squeak from the door seals AROUND THE WINDOW rubbing on the body of the car. Slightly lowering the window does not stop this squeak. Applying silicone to the rubber seals will stop the noise for a while.

    My VP Commodore had Problem 2 - a squirt of silicone on the rubbers would stop this for a month or two.

    My VY developed Problem 1 shortly after having the windows tinted. I bought the car with 20K on it - no squeaks. Had it for 3-4 months, then had the windows tinted and noticed the squeak soon after. I didn't connect at the time, so didn't take it back to the tinter. I suspect that the window stops were changed to let them apply the tint.

    Can someone please post a description of where the stops are located and how to adjust them. This would let several people have a go at fixing the problem and we can then share experiences.

    Cheers,
    Paul.
     
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    Solution, for me anyway

    I have waited 3 weeks to make sure the rattle did not return before I posted this. I have had all the crap issues with the pathetic design of the window. It always would stop if I tapped the power window button to lower it slightly, only to return immediately once I raised it to the fully closed position. I have had my VY since new and my dealership had tried a number of times to fix the noise. It always came back.

    FIX: This is gonna sound harsh, but it worked.

    1: Lower the window fully and open the door.

    2: Grasp the top of the door/window frame and bend it outwards. This applies more pressure to the glass when the window is fully up and prevents it from moving around and squeaking.

    3: Loosen the door striker just enough so as to close the door and make sure it shuts in tight against the body of the car, but it opens and closes smoothly.

    You should now notice a small amount of resistance when the window is just about closed in the up position. Rattle should be gone.
     
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    Have you noticed any increase in wind noise around the door?

    BTW - funny you say to lower the glass first - a panel beater told me to do something like this with a Torana to reduce wind noise around the door, but to push IN on the frame, but he said make sure the glass is UP, otherwise you could fold the whole door frame over! I was scared of breaking the glass, but it did reduce the wind noise around the door. Didn't help with the 'other' source of wind noise in the car though ;-)

    Cheers,
    Paul and 'Squeaks' the VY Berlina
     
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    Yes there is a slight increase in wind noise. I had to bend it a number of times. Taking it a little further each time. It definitely fixed the noise though. Unfortunately, my windows have leaked water since new through the top when in heavy rain, so I can't really know if the adjustment will cause this to be worse.
     
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    This is how they adjusted doors in cars years ago.

    It doesn't fix the rattle when the window is down. I think there's a nylon bushing that needs replacing......
     
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    Holden have warranted the squeaky window problem. The rubber strips on the B-Pillar apply pressure to the windows when either up or down.

    Will find out tonight if this worked when I pick up the car but the dealer says he does at least 8 of these a week.
     

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