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Dyno tests with Hydrogen booster.

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Zipster, Feb 20, 2009.

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  1. Zipster

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  2. one_and_only2004

    one_and_only2004 Turbo L98 FTW

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    yeah this stuff rocks... It's physically impossible to get this to work efficiently..

    it's similar to the "i plumbed my air condidtioner into my intake" idea. Your car has to generate this so called power to start off with..
     
  3. Garth

    Garth Your guess is as good as mine...... Staff Member

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    im extreamly interested in this setup, having huge fuel bills at work, im open minded, and keen to give anything ago, can you contact me via pm dude, keen to talk more.
     
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    DannyboyDS Just hand me the pliers.

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    I find it interesting, you have to remember that the internal combustion engine does waste allot of the energy it produces.

    Although one_and_only2004 has a point, the initial energy has to come from somewhere, I.E the alternator, which has to work harder to produce more energy which creates load.

    Allot of people like to throw the words overunity into these discussions, but those people should remember that something is being consumed that is not being self replenished.

    The theory is sound enough, and that can also be said for a million other things and i'd like to see more of this floating around as it is interesting, as for do I believe that it currently works or is suitable - no comment.
     
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    That's right - Any of us could have found that using google, wanted to see how OP's setup dyno'd.
     
  7. Stressball

    Stressball Rolling on 4 again :D

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    I think the fact that Zipster believed that solar energy and mushrooms are 'free energy' kind of proves his knowledge in the matter of energy production and consumption. He doesn't understand the terminology, so why would he understand why this would not be economical? Sure it may work, but anyone who understands the concept knows that it is going to use a lot more energy producing the hydrogen than the car would have used in travelling without it in the first place.
     
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    Not to mention the cost of maintaining the drivetrain running under this alternate fuel
     
  9. danja

    danja Swerves for gay koalas

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    I would disagree and say that the theory is not sound at all, and is based on pseudoscience, not actual science - but that's not what this thread is about.

    Let's wait till he has his own dyno and emissions results and we'll see what can be made of those.
     
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    Lol, overunity...now there's a word that says screams "scam"
     
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    DannyboyDS Just hand me the pliers.

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    Commsirac that is 100% correct at no point can you create energy, which is the only way overunity could ever work, "energy can not be created, only converted" and in saying that you should keep in mind that there will always be energy lost through things like heat and friction during conversion, even electrical resistance.

    Danja by the theory being sound I meant running dual fuel or in this case two fuels as one, uising hydrogen to supliment the petrol use, that should work well, its the generation of the hydrogen that lets these things down.

    Now if someone grabbed a tank, a solar setup and a whole lot of other crap, and used solar energy to fill a tank full of compressed hydrogen and then ran the car on that and petrol at the same time, with a tune that was intended for that purpose, then it MIGHT just work out a little better.

    Then again why not just use unicorns horns.

    VS Omega your right too, cast iron blocks become brittle when exposed to excessive amounts of hydrogen, or so ive been told.
     
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    delcowizzid on holiday

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    i was just reading an article i found on thirdgen with plans to build an orthohydrogen setup suposidly it will make enough hydrogen to run on just hydrogen using very specific frequency being sent to the hydrogen cell and a variable frequency using the tps to control the frequency so it mad more hydrogen the more you put your foot on the gas i had to laugh when it said to get stainless valves and exhaust and ceramic coat the whole inside of the engine incluing pistons and barrels to prevent water damage
     
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    VrWagz1 The Wagon on Wheels..

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    Id like to see the results just minus the "hydrogen". Any gains in emmesions are only from that black box by dogily tricking the ecu so it runs the engine lean. The buckets of water and plastic tubes would have very little effect on anything. So now like it said in the video "the car is running lean" which = bang or shortened engine life at the minimum due to increased chamber temperatures.
    This whole hydrogen thing is so wide spread now and everyone has heard of it. If it actually worked there'd be alot more people using it. Fact is hardly anyone is using it and anyone who understands common sence can see the flaws in it.
     
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    lol the guy in that utube video sounds like frank spenser
     
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    DannyboyDS Just hand me the pliers.

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    I wish it worked, would make my life allot easier :p

    I was looking at doing it my car a long while back, after hours upon hours of research I came to the conclusion that the technology is not quite ready for the automotive industry yet.

    I always laught at the "ether" generators too :p but hey I like to be open minded and I try to promote open mindedness or whatever but yeah, there ive said my opinion, I do not believe it yet works for a vehicle, its a false economy.
     
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    Lumps of cheese welcome to the machine

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    Threads merged..
     
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    For those who still doubt about overunity, have a look at this:

    Lutec Australia Pty Ltd - Welcome!

    My dyno tests will come soon. I had a problem with my new setup, let's say a little month from now.
     
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    I am closing this thread as you clearly have not got the dyno and emissions tests like you said.
     
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