E Series Clubsport or Monaro

Hi John,

Welcome to the forum, enjoy your stay here!

I've driven the R8 E Series 1 myself only once or twice which belonged to my work mate and I tell you they are a golden drive. The electronics and even transmission has advanced since the Cv8z Monaro days. The car feels incredibly larger and the in cabin tone is much more rich like. I also belive the R8 has other features such as ESP and heaps more sensors that can tell you stuff about the cars running preformance than the Cv8z Monaro.

If you take a Cv8z for a test drive, then take a E Series 1 R8 you will find the great difference and likely go for the R8. Price tag between the two are fairly different though I would think almost 15-20k in difference I think? Depends what your after, been wanting to finally get a piece of decent technology and drive chain I'd go for the R8 if the pocket is that deep, some R8 E1's going for under $42,0000. Just watch for the 2006 models and early 2007 models as there was a few recall issues. Check car history and service history etc.

Good Luck & I want to see pictures after purchase.

 

Two schools of thought spring to mind. Do you want the car as a driver's car or a collector's car? If you're after the driver's car, grab the clubby. If you're after the collector's get the munro. Not that the munro is a bad drive, it isn't. at all. It's better balanced than the commodores of that gen but doesn't stack up to the handling of the E series. At least not without some serious mods, which reduces the collectable nature of it.

 

Monaro is by far the better investment.

 

^ as stated above.... 2 different cars for 2 different purposes.

If you plan to drive it daily, want better features, handling, safety (basically the lot).... the R8 is the way to go hands down.

For a collecter/investment, and having a car that could very well appreciate in value over the years (if low k's and in mint condition), the Monaro is the way to go.

If it was me though, there wouldnt be a decision to be made at all.... R8 all the way, every day, and twice on sunday .
You want a car you can drive, be safe and comfortable in, and have enough room without having to squat in it like a mini. I'm a little taller/larger as well.... and coupe is definitely what you DONT want if you plan on driving it on a regular basis. The shine of the monaro will fade very quickly- although it is a lovely car in its own right.

Test drive both to decide for yourself, but no way I'd go past the R8 (if they were my only two options- I'm a wagon fan ).

 

monaro would hold its value longer and will pull more chicks, but i like the clubby better.

 

Bank loan, get both... Monaro for your old man, r8 for you!


But seriously, go with the newer car if after comfort and safety.

 

lol, massive difference in safty....

R8 would be like pissing your money up against the wall, and they're nothing special.

Monaro, is cool to look at. Might not make the same power as an R8 but is about 200kg lighter so will go just as fast and I doubt you'll notice any difference in handly or comfort.
Infact, I think the VY VZ's are more comfortable then the VE's.

 

Another vote for monaro.

 

clubby.. cant go wrong

 

I have to say go the clubby

 

Having driven both many times (stock to highly modified), my vote is for the Clubby. There's nothing special about the Monaro (to drive). The E series Clubby performs and handles much better. Get your old man to take both for a drive. That's the only way to decide between 2 cars.

 

Have to disagree on the comfort comment. I find the VEs MUCH more comfortable than the Y/Z series cars. The munro is essentially just a 2 door commy, so mechanically it's nothing special. It's more the stigma attached to the name that is where the investment properties will come in. I don't think they'll ever appreciate as much as the old gen monaros but they WILL appreciate over the next couple of decades based on the badge alone.

Also, in spite of the weight saving, the 5.7 was notoriously average at low revs when stock, so for day to day driving the clubby will have plenty more kick, even though the actual numbers may not be that different.

Horses for courses as far as comfort goes, what fits me won't necessarily fit others but the E is definitely a better fit for me. As for handling though, the balance and accuracy of the steering alone in the Es is enough of an improvement to make it the better choice for a driver's car.

There's no wrong or right choice - as has been said, drive both and make an informed decision. But there's no way I'd be going past the clubby out of those two choices.

 

Well the original Monaro was just a two door kingswood...

I hate VE seats. They're crap.

 

I'd have to say the clubby!! Don't own one, but the few ive been in feel really planted. Plus I'm biased, I think the VE is the sexiest commodore going around.

 

LOL, VE's are fat and bulbous. Hate to see ya mrs if you reckon thats sexy!


(Disclaimer; The above is a joke and in no way is it meant to insinuate your mrs is a heffer.)

 

haha you funny bastard!!

 

My vote would go to the monaro.

My reasons:

1. It's a future classic
2. It is a stunning car to look at, even the pre Z ones.
3. The VZ's are actually a bit better than a VE in a head on collisions. The reason the VE has the 5 stars is due to being a bit better with side on impacts and they have ESP.
4. I'm 6 foot 4 and I hit in my mates VZ monaro very comfortably
5. If your old man has been dreaming of a Monaro for years, he will be happier in a monaro.

The last point it really the big one I think. When you are buying your dream car, you don't care what's better on paper but rather what makes you feel like a 5yo again.

I'm planning on getting a new car this year, my options are say a VE SSV or a VZ R8. On paper, the VE is a better car as such being safer, a more advanced chassis and it's newer. But I want the older VZ just because that's the one that makes me feel like a 5yo again.

Hope that makes sense and helps!

 

Couldn't agree more.

VY/VZ Is more a drivers car IMO.

Same as a Torana is more a drivers car then VZ.