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And from an economic point of view. Taxing higher income people at a higher rate reduces total productivity..

To make things really simple, the more higher income people (or anyone) gets taxed, the less income they receive. Which means they're willing to work less hours and subsequently work less..

Higher income people should be taxed much less then they currently are..

 

High income has little to do with luck. It has a lot to do with hard work.

People shouldn't work there arses off and earn a high income just to give it a huge proportion of it to lower income people..

 

Oh I see the bigger picture. But in Australia everyone has the opportunity to go to Uni and study.

I see mates who I used to work at KFC with, these guys drop out of school at year 10 and work about 20 hours a week at KFC. These guys get trashed every night and live a very "fun" lifestyle..

I'm workin my ass of at Uni, I've toned down my drinking heaps and focus on my studies. Would I love to go out every night with mates and live a life like that, yeahh of course it would be fun..

But I'm making the trade off, by studying and living like this now, so I can get a good job in the future. I am aiming to get in the high income bracket, that's what motivating to study at uni..

I don't like the fact that I'm working my arse off and will continue to do so and then have to support others who didn't. Who in the years that I was studying and preparing myself were off having a good time..

That is what pisses me off. I know it's selfish, but that's just my point of view..

**EDIT** And what Julie said in her 2nd paragraph. If people are developing themselves by doing an apprenticeship, good on em. It's these people who piss their youth away having fun that I don't want to support.

 

Totally disagree with you there. How many people on $100,000+ are on an hourly rate? The overwhelming majority are on salary where more hours put into the job does not equate to more money.

 

I'm not talking hourly rate.. I'm talking total hours by the whole workforce..

This is first year microeconomics. From an economic viewpoint, taxing higher income people too much is worse for the economy. It's all about incentives..

I can't be bothered getting the textbook out, I'll do it when I have more time if you like. Be better if someone with the full economics knowledge at their fingers would spell it out..

 

Does anybody know if we are getting the $600 per child this year with this budget

 

i agree you dont have to be a uni graduate to make good money, but i think you are a little out-dated in the cost invovled in schooling.

primary and secondary schools, even in the public sector are expnesive. its the extra bits, uniform, travel, excusions, camps, food, fees etc.

Uni.... whoa i so wish uni was free. i was lucky, i could drive 35 mins to uni and live at home. my brothers both went to a different uni (mine didnt offer what they wanted).
costs the oldies a fortune in residence fees. even without those fees i was forking out a good $500 per semested in books and fees. not counting extra bits and pieces like parking fees, petrol to get there, etc etc etc.
i can see why some people simply cannot afford to do it.
my oldies helped, and that was with a part time job. i stacked my crappy little uni datsun and took on a second night job just to pay for it. hardly slept for 3 weeks just to do it and my results suffered because of it.
without that help i wouldnt have been able to do that. oh and yeah i still owe 20 odd thou in hecs.

 

I have a mortgage and 2 kids and a wife to support and we barely scrape by on our $30,000 combined income, (she looks after the kids ATM) I had to stop work in SEP '04 due to the wifes ill health and look after the kids on my own living on a pension. There are no luxuries for us let me tell ya. I have just got another job lined up which I will be starting within the next month (hopefully). I am not skilled, I will take whatever work I can get. I did not do well at school at all, so there is little point in me attempting to get a uni degree. And beside who's gonna pay all the bills while I do that?

I pay all the above bills that Julie mentioned on $30k a year, so if the people with $100k+ a year are struggling? They musn't know how to budget very well LOL

I have to admit that Childcare expenses would be high tho perhaps $10,000-$15,000 a year

 

TAX is illegal so was intrest but it was worked around also
yeh i know laugh but you shouldnt be google if you want
it may take a bit of sifting around and reading.
Were all getting ripped off
:b:

 

Interest is illegal? Interest is basically the price you pay for having money now..

Ie. I want $100,000 now, because $100,000 today does not equal $100,000 in 5 years, you pay to offset that.

The other portion (other then inflation) is the price someone charges for taking the risk of lending you the money.

How is that illegal at all?

Tax I can kind of understand where you're coming from, one person siezing money from another. Of course I don't agree with it, but I could kind of understand it if I had to.. Not interest though..

 

This is killa long BUT it gives you the picture of how it works
uno the system
and its the same in every country
go on copy and past it if you dont have the time to read it now
Cheers yosy


AN INDICTMENT OF THE AMERICAN MIND

BY: Stephen Ames

So how do most American's resolve conflicts they face when authority figures command them to negate human life or human dignity?

The most important and best known study on obedience to authority was carried out by Stanely Milgram at Yale University in the early 1960's. His work can be found in the Journal of Abnormal and Social psychology, 67, 371-378 (1963) and in a book authored by him "Obedience to Authority" published by Harper and Row (1974).

The most fascinating aspect of Milgram's work was that the results he came up with surprised both himself and his colleagues. In fact his work almost entirely escaped one of the most common complaints leveled at psychological research, namely that the experimental findings merely confirm common sense. There was a wide variety of people of different ages and occupations involved in= the experiment.

This is how the experiment worked. You are taken into a room and met by a 31 year old biology teacher, the experimenter. The other person in the room is a 47 year old accountant who is mild mannered and likable.

The experimenter tells you that he is interested in learning about the effects of punishment on learning. It is decided by drawing lots that the accountant will be the learner and you will be the teacher. You go into a room where the learner is strapped into an "electric chair" and an electrode is strapped to his wrist. Electrode paste is applied to his wrist to avoid burns and blisters. You are told that the electrode is connected to a nearby shock generator.

You go into another room, which has the shock generator unit in it. It has 30 lever switches, each labeled with a voltage between 15 and 450 volts. Groups of four switches of increasing voltage are labeled Slight Shock, moderate Shock, Strong Shock, very Strong Shock, Intense Shock, extreme Intensity Shock, and DANGER: Severe Shock. The final two levers are simply marked XXX.

You are told to administer a shock to the learner each time he answers wrong and to move one level higher each time.

As the learning tasks proceeds, the learner would make a number of mistakes and receive more intense shocks. After receiving shocks of 75, 90 and 105 volts, he would merely grunt. At 120 volts he would yell to the experimenter that the shocks were becoming painful. At 150 volts he would yell 'Get me out of here ! I won't be in this experiment anymore! I refuse to go on!" At 180 volts he yells "I can't stand the pain", and at 270 volts his response becomes a scream. Thereafter, there are screams of agony, and a vehement refusal to go on with the experiment or provide answers to questions. When the 300 volt shock is reached, he pounds on the wall. If you , the "teacher", say at any point that you don't want to continue the experiment, the experimenter calmly informs you that you must.

What would you do in that situation? What do you think other people would do? Stanely Milgram put these two questions to psychiatrists, students and middle class adults. When predicting their own behavior, absolutely everyone predicted that they would defy the experimenter and refuse to continue with the experiment. People tend to have a high opinion of themselves. For example, psychiatrists at a leading medical school predicted that only 3.73 percent of subjects would obey the experimenter at 300 volts and that only 1 in a 1000 would go to the 450 volt stage.

Most people unfamiliar with the actual results would predict that only a psychopath or a sadist would be likely to keep on administering intense electric shocks to an obviously distraught, tortured and unwilling subject. But, in fact, Milgram found that 62 percent of the people exposed to the conditions just described continued to obey the experimenter to the lethal 450 volt level! In fact 500 times as many individuals prepared to administer the maximum shock as predicted by a group of psychiatrists!

The learner was in collusion with the experimenter and did not actually receive any electric shocks at all. The study was rigged so that the mild mannered accountant was always the learner and the subject would always be the teacher.

Milgram also argued that what critics of his work really objected to was the terrible picture it drew of human nature rather than the deception or methodology involved. Would the Milgram study have been the subject of public outrage if all the participants had disobeyed the experimenter at the first sign of discomfort from the learner? The evidence suggests not. Several people were given a description of the Milgram study; some were told that most of the participants were obedient to the experimenter, and the rest that most of them were disobedient. They rated the experiment as more harmful and as providing a worse experience when there was a large measure of obedience.

In the Milgram study, the experimenter represented an authority figure. His authority was enhanced by the special coat he wore, by his association with Yale university, by his aura of expertise in human behavior.

On the other hand the "learner" in the Milgram study did everything he could to persuade the subject to stop administering shocks. He screamed, he begged the subject to stop and in some cases he even said he had a heart condition. The participant was unable to satisfy both the experimenter and the victim of torture. Most people chose to side with the experimenter. The experimenter was perceived as a authority figure so obedience, even commands to commit torture were considered the norm. After the experiment the subjects were debriefed and it was explained to them that the were not really electrocuting the learner.

When a human being was replaced with a puppy in a Milgram type experiment in which actual electricity was used because you can't make a puppy yelp and howl without pain. Only 54 per cent of male participants would administer a genuine electric shock to the puppy. But 100 per cent of the female participants were prepared to give the most severe shock to the howling and yelping puppy. This I find very troubling.

A psychiatrist by the name of R.D. Laing along with numerous other psychiatrists claim that mental illness is a myth. They argue, anyone allegedly suffering from mental illness is simply behaving in ways which deviate from those which are expected. I would like to point out that anyone who would not inflict 450 volts into another human being on command is outside of the normal in American Society Largely America (62 per cent) is made up of sadists, psychopaths and potential murderers and considers behavior outside of their own as abnormal. They label those who are unlike them as mentally ill or criminals.

For example, most American's tend to become quite upset if you do not want to pay the Internal Revenue Service.

First, the Internal Revenue Service is not a United States Government Agency, it is an Agency of the International Monetary Fund; second, there is no law in the United States Code requiring the vast majority of the American people to pay or file anything with the Internal Revenue Service; third, a 1040 form is for a payment of a debt to Great Britain; fourth, not one electron collected by the Internal Revenue Service goes to the United States government (The United States has not had a Treasury since 1921); fifth, the Internal Revenue Service does not collect money, It collects electrons. It has to collect these electrons or pretended hyperinflation would set in. The electrons collected by the Internal Revenue Service are not placed into an account, the electrons are simply deleted. People do not seem to be able to grasp that a loan is nothing more than computer key strokes. The only reason that there is interest on a pretended loan is because people might figure out what is going on, because in their minds banks make money by charging interest on loans. The reality of the situation is banks do not make loans. Banks put electrons into circulation. People make payments in electrons on what they think is the principle plus the interest of a loan. If you want to pay the Internal revenue Service or a Bank just send them a nine volt battery and tell them to keep the change. Whether they collect electrons or not is debatable. It depends on whether or not you agree with Max Planck, because waves are particles and particles are waves. (We are told that there is not a unified theory and that physicists are searching for it, that is not true.Your entire existence, commerce, religion, reality and very thoughts can be summed up in this equation. This equation is not a theory but, a proof. The proof is:

1.602 x 10-19 C =E0 E=A5

FT =3D h /E=A5m

h/ E=A5m [coupled with] Ft =3D I

I =E0 D3

D3 =3D R (R being "Reality")

eR =3D 0

Zero is the absence of quantity and a linguistic element.

To make matters even worse , when you don't pay the Internal Revenue Service or a bank, people consider you a criminal or a dead beat. You are then prosecuted by someone who is a subordinate (Pretended U.S. Attorney paid by the IMF in electrons) of the Alien Property Custodian (Pretended Attorney General of the United States, INTERPOL agent, paid in electrons by IMF). I almost forgot: You are the Alien. Read the list below:

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF.

2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN.

3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921.

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF.

5. The Attorney General of the U.S. is not employed by the U.S. But is an Agent of INTERPOL which is head quartered in Lyons, France.

6. The United States does not have any employees.

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF.

8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes.

9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators.

10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number.

11. You are an "Institutional Unit" in which your body and labor are pledged to the UN through the IMF.

12. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System.

13. Your Social Security number is your slave number. Just about everyone in the World has a Social Security number from the UN through the IMF.

14. The UN is a One World Super Government.

15. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.

16. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the capital of the World" and he was correct.

17. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund.

18. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN.

19. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant.

20. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.

GUESS WHO AND WHAT OWNS YOU AND THE UNITED NATIONS ?

As a matter of fact the imagined President, imagined Representatives, imagined Senators, imagined Supreme Court Justices and imagined Federal Judges are not paid by the United States Government. Actually the United States Government does not have any employees They are paid by the International Monetary Fund in electrons. You see there is no such thing as the United States Government. In reality there are no Governments. There are Corporations (Fictions) such as the Federal Reserve Inc., and the United States Inc., which in fact are private corporations. The United States Inc., is just a slave management company. Guess what that makes you? If you said property, you are correct! You are Human Capital. The shares that were issued for the Federal Reserve when it was created back in 1913 only cost $100.00. That was quite the bargain.

To verify the facts in the preceding paragraphs see (5 U.S.C. 903, 12 U.S.C. 95, 18 U.S.C.A. 914, 22 U.S.C. 263, 285, 286, 287, 288. Public Law 89-719, Public Law 94-564, Public Law 101-167, Public Law 91-151 Public Law 103-465, House Report 103-826 T.D.O 150-10, T.D.O. 92, 41 Stat. Chap 214 pg. 654, Emergency Banking Act 48 Stat. 1, Articles of Agreement 60 Stat. 1440, 20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2), United Nations Secretariat Revised System of National Accounting, Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Cromelin v. United States, 177 F.2d 275, 277 Tomalewski v. United States, 493 F.Supp 673, 675 Foster v. Bork, 425 F.Supp 1318, 1319-20 FRC v. GE 281 U.S. 464, Keller v. PE 261 U.S. 428, United States v. LePatourel, 571 F2d 405, 410, Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, INTERPOL Constitution Art. 30, Executive Order 10422, Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493. 42 Pa.C.S.A. 502. General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs.

When you see the documents for yourself, your mind will shatter into a thousand pieces. You will have to acknowledge that your entire life has been nothing but a hallucination. You will have to acknowledge that there is NOT, NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN A GOVERNMENT, COUNTRIES, MONEY, OR CONSTITUTIONS. All GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTRIES ARE FABRICATED FICTIONS CLEVERLY WOVEN INTO YOUR MIND. They are fictions accepted by you because you have been lied to and poisoned your entire life.. What would you do without an external authority commanding you what to do and what not to do? Would you be lost? Did you ever think that maybe you would find yourself? I am not afraid to acknowledge that I am an incomplete 'Being in motion' searching for my reason for existing in this Petry dish commonly called Earth. The evidence in my possession cannot be rebutted. Think twice before labeling me.

One can quickly become diagnosed mentally ill for stating the facts listed above. Most American's want people who research and discover things such as those listed above to be locked away or murdered because, it holds a mirror up to them and shows the evil that actually lurks in their hearts. That is exactly what has happened to me. Don't you want my death? The people here in Pennsylvania love death. They also want Mumia Jamal, Lisa Lambert and a host of other innocent people murdered. When federal Judge Danzell released Lisa Lambert on a Habeas Corpus the people here in Central Pennsylvania wanted Judge Danzell impeached. They want Lisa Lambert dead. Judge Danzell said that Lisa Lambert's case was the worst case that he has ever seen in the English speaking world. Like Jim Morrison said in the film "The Doors", "Hatred is a very under estimated emotion

Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. Social Security, as follows: S.I. 1997 NO.1778 The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 Made 22nd of July 1997 coming into force 1st September 1997.

[[ See APFN Web Pages: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/knighthood.htm ; http://www.apfn.org/apfn/queen.htm ]]

At the Court at Buckingham Palace the 22nd day of July 1997. Now, therefore Her Majesty an pursuance of section 179 (1) (a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act of 1992 and all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is please, by and with advise of Her privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered as follows:

"This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997."

Does this give a new meaning to Federal Judge William Wayne Justice stating in court that he takes his orders from England?

This order goes on to redefine words in the Social Security Act and makes some changes in United States Law.

Remember, King George was the "Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire and c, and of the United States of America." See: Treaty of Peace (1783) 8 U.S. Statutes at Large 80.. Great Britain which is the agent for the Pope, is in charge of the USA ..'

What people do not know is that the so called Founding Fathers and King George were working hand-in-hand to bring the people of America to their knees, to install a Central Government over them and to bind them to a debt that could not be paid. First off you have to understand that the UNITED STATES is a corporation and that it existed before the Revolutionary war. See Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43. and 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)

The United States is not a land mass, it is a corporation.

Now, you also have to realize that King George was not just the King of England, he was also the King of France. Treaty of Peace * U.S. 8 Statutes at Large 80.

On January 22, 1783 Congress ratified a contract for the repayment of 21 loans that the UNITED STATES had already received dating from February 28, 1778 to July 5, 1782. Now the UNITED STATES Inc. owes the King

money which is due January 1, 1788 from King George via France. King George funded both sides of the Revolutionary War.

Now the Articles of Confederation which were declared in force March 1, 1781 States in Article 12:

"All bills of credit emitted, monies borrowed, and debts contracted by, or under the authority of Congress, before the assembling of the United States, in pursuance of the present confederation, shall be deemed and considered a charge against the United States, for payment and satisfaction whereof the said United States, and the public faith are hereby solemnly pledged."

The Articles of Confederation acknowledge the debt owed to King George.

Now after losing the Revolutionary War, even though the War was nothing more than a move to turn the people into debtors for the King, the conquest was not yet complete.

Now the loans were coming due and so a meeting was convened in Annapolis, Maryland, to discuss the economic instability of the country under the Articles of Confederation. Only five States come to the meeting, but there is a call for another meeting to take place in Philadelphia the following year with the express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation

On February 21, 1787 Congress gave approval of the meeting to take place in Philadelphia on May 14, 1787, to revise the Articles of Confederation. Something had to be done about the mounting debt. Little did the people know that the so called founding fathers were going to reorganize the United States because it was Bankrupt.

On September 17, 1787 twelve State delegates approve the Constitution. The States have now become Constitutors.

Constitutor: In the civil law, one who, by simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt. Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed.

The States were now liable for the debt owed to the King, but the people of America were not because they were not a party to the Constitution because it was never put to them for a vote [[See APFN web page http://www.apfn.org/apfn/money.htm ]]

On August 4th, 1790 an Act was passed which was Titled.-An Act making provision for the payment of the Debt of the United States. This can be found at 1 U.S. Statutes at Large pages 138-178. This Act for all intents and purposes abolished the States and Created the Districts. If you don't believe it look it up. The Act set up Federal Districts, here in Pennsylvania we got two. In this Act each District was assigned a portion of the debt. The next step was for the states to reorganize their governments which most did in 1790. This had to be done because the States needed to legally bind the people to the debt. The original State Constitutions were never submitted to the people for a vote. So the governments wrote new constitutions and submitted them to people for a vote thereby binding the people to the debts owed to Great Britain. The people became citizens of the State where they resided and ipso facto a citizen of the United States. A citizen is a member of a fictional entity and it is synonymous with subject.

What you think is a state is in reality a corporation, in other words, a Person.

"Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is Person." 9 F. Supp 272 "Word "person" does not include state. 12 Op Atty Gen 176.

 

There are no states, just corporations. Every body politic on this planet is a corporation. A corporation is an artificial entity, a fiction at law. They only exist in your mind. They are images in your mind, that speak to you. We labor, pledge our property and give our children to a fiction.

For an indepth look into the nature of these corporations and to see how you also have been declared a fictional entity. See: AMERICAN LAW AND PROCEDURE. JURISPRUDENCE AND LEGAL INSTITUTIONS. VOL.XIII By James De Witt Andrews LL.B. (Albany Law School), LL.D. (Ruskin University) from La Salle University. This book explains in detail the nature and purpose of these corporations, you will be stunned at what you read.

Now before we go any further let us examine a few things in the Constitution.

Article six section one keeps the loans from the King valid it states; "All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation."

Another interesting tidbit can be found at Article One Section Eight clause Two which states that Congress has the power to borrow money on the credit of the United States. This was needed so the United States (Which went into Bankruptcy on January 1, 1788) could borrow money and then because the States were a party to the Constitution they would also be liable for it.

The next underhanded move was the creation of The United States Bank in 1791. This was a private Bank of which there were 25,000 shares issued of which 18,000 were held by those in England. The Bank loaned the United States money in exchange for Securities of the United States

Now the creditors of the United States which included the King wanted paid the Interest on the loans that were given to the United States. So Alexander Hamilton came up with the great idea of taxing alcohol.The people resisted so George Washington sent out the militia to collect the tax which they did. This has become known as the Whiskey rebellion. It is the Militia's duty to collect taxes. How did the United States collect taxes off of the people if the people are not a party to the Constitution? I'll tell you how. The people are slaves! The United States belongs to the founding fathers, their posterity and Great Britain. America is nothing more than a Plantation. It always has been. How many times have you seen someone in court attempt to use the Constitution and then the Judge tells him he can't. It is because you are not a party to it. We are SLAVES!!!!!!! If you don't believe read Padelford, Fay & Co. vs. The Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah. 14 Georgia 438, 520 which states

" But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution, the Constitution, it is true, is a compact but he is not a party to it."

Now back to the Militia. Just read Article One Section Eight clause (15) which states that it is the militia's job to execute the laws of the Union. Now read Clause (16) Which states that Congress has the power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States.... the Militia is not there to protect you and me, it is their duty to collect our substance.

As you can plainly see all the Constitution did is set up a Military Government to guard the King's commerce and make us slaves.

If one goes to 8 U.S. statutes at large 116-132 you will find "The Treaty of Amity, Commerce and Navigation". This Treaty was signed on November 19th, 1794 which was twelve years after the War. Article 2 of the Treaty states that the King's Troops were still occupying the United States. Being the nice King that he was, he decided that the troops would return to England by June 1st, 1796. The troops were still on American soil because, quite frankly the King wanted them here.

Many people tend to blame the Jews for our problems, but they too are for the most part also slaves. Jewish Law does however govern the entire world, as found in Jewish Law by MENACHEM ELON, DEPUTY PRESIDENT

SUPREME COURT OF ISRAEL, to wit:

"Everything in the Babylonian Talmud is binding on all Israel. Every town and country must follow all customs, give effect to the decrees, and carry out the enactment's of the Talmudic sages, because the entire Jewish people accepted everything contained in Talmud. The sages who adopted the enactment's and decrees, instituted the practices, rendered the decisions, and derived the laws, constituted all or most of the Sages of Israel. It is they who received the tradition of the fundamentals of the entire Torah in unbroken succession going back to Moses, our teacher."

We are living under what the Bible calls Mammon. As written in the subject Index, Mammon is defined as ("Civil law and procedure").

Now turn to the "The Shetars Effect on English Law" -- A Law of the Jews Becomes the Law of the Land, found in "The George Town Law Journal, Vol 71: pages 1179-1200." It is clearly stated in the Law Review that the Jews are the property of the Norman and Anglo-Saxon Kings. It also explains that the Talmud is the law of the land. It explains how the Babylonian Talmud became the law of the land, which is now known as the Uniform Commercial Code which is private international law. The written credit agreement -- the Jewish shetar is a lien on all of the property in the world. The treatise also explains that the Jews are owned by Great Britain and that the Jews are in charge of the Baking system.

We are living under the Babylonian Talmud. It was brought into England in 1066 and has been enforced by the Pope, Kings and the various religions ever since. It is total and relentless mind control, people are taught to believe in things that do not exist. Private International Law, which is commercial law, only deals with fictions, known as persons. A person is a fictional entity at law, not a living being. See UCC 1-201.

Now before you scream that the UCC is unconstitutional I'm sorry people, you are not a party to any constitution. Read the case cite below.

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it." Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520

You have to understand that Great Britain,(Article six Section one) the United States and the States are the parties to the Constitution not you. Let me try to explain. If I buy an automobile from a man and that automobile has a warranty and the engine blows up the first day I have it. Then I tell the man just forget about it. Then you come along and tell the man to pay me and he says no. So you take him to court for not holding up the contract. The court then says case dismissed. Why? Because you are not a party to the contract. You cannot sue a government official for not adhering to a contract (Constitution) that you are not a party too. You better accept the fact that you are a Slave. When you try to use the Constitution you are committing a CRIME known as CRIMINAL TRESPASS. Why? Because you are attempting to infringe on a private contract that you are not a party to. Then to make matters worse you are a debt slave who owns no property or has any rights. You are a mere user of your Masters property! Here are just a couple of examples:

"The primary control and custody of infants is with the government" Tillman V. Roberts. 108 So. 62

"Marriage is a civil contract to which there are three parties-the husband, the wife and the state." Van Koten v. Van Koten. 154 N.E. 146.

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State: individual so-called 'ownership" is only by virtue of Government, i.e. law amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State. Senate Document No. 43 73rd Congress 1st Session. (Brown v. Welch supra) You own no Property because you are a slave. Really you are worse off than a slave because you are also a debtor.

"The right of traffic or the transmission of property, as an absolute inalienable right, is one which has never existed since governments were instituted, and never can exist under government." Wynehamer v. The People. 13 N.Y. Rep.378, 481

Great Britain to this day collects taxes from the American people. The IRS is not an Agency of the United States Government.

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All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB's-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by foreign persons, of U.S. Form #8288, #8288a.

These codes have since been changed to read as follows: IMF 300-309, Barred Assessment, CP 55 generated valid for MFT-30, which is the code for the 1040 form. IMF 310-399 reads the same as IMF 300-309, BMF 390-399 reads U.S.-U.K. Tax Treaty Claims. Isn't it INCREDIBLE that a 1040 form is a payment of a tax to the U.K.? Everybody is always looking to 26 U.S.C. for the law that makes one liable for the so called Income Tax but, it is not in there because it is not a Tax, it is debt collection through a private contract called the Constitution of the United States Article Six, Section One and various agreements. Is a cow paying an income tax when the machine gets connected to it's udders ? The answer is no. I have never known a cow that owns property or has been compensated for its labor. You own nothing that your labor has ever produced. You don't even own your labor or yourself. Your labor is measured in current credit money, which is debt. You are allowed to retain a small portion of your labor so that you can have food, clothing shelter and most of all breed more slaves.

You see, we are cows, the IRS is company who milks the cows and the United States Inc. is the veterinarian who takes care of the herd and Great Britain is the Owner of the farm in fee simple. The farm is held in allodium by the Pope.

Now the picture will become much clearer after reading the next few paragraphs. We will now show the Popes involvement in the scheme of things.

"Convinced that the principles of religion contribute most powerfully to keep nations in the state of passive obedience which they owe to their princes, the high contracting parties declare it to be their intention to sustain in their respective states, those measures which the clergy may adopt with the aim of ameliorating their interests, so intimately connected with the preservation of the authority of the princes; and the contracting powers join in offering their thanks to the Pope for what he has already done for them, and solicit his constant cooperation in their views of submitting the nations." Article (3) Treaty of Varona (1822)

If the Sovereign Pontiff should nevertheless, insist on his law being observed he must be obeyed. Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844. Pontifical laws moreover become obligatory without being accepted or confirmed by secular rulers. Syllabus, prop. 28, 29, 44. Hence the jus nationale,(Federal Law) or the exceptional ecclesiastical laws prevalent in the United States, may be abolished at any time by the Sovereign Pontiff. Elements of Ecclesiastical Law. Vol. I 53-54.

So could this be shown that the Pope rules the world?

The Pope (Vicar of Christ) claims to be the ultimate owner of everything in the World. See Treaty of 1213, Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1492

et us examine just what a crime is.

Crime. A positive or negative act in violation of penal law; an offense against the State or United States.

Remember that the States and United States are fictions so, how can you damage a fiction.

What about a Tort?

Tort. ( from Lat. torquere, to twist, tortus, twisted, wrestled aside). A private or civil wrong or injury, including action for bad faith breach of contract, for which the court will provide a remedy in the form of an action for damages. K Mart Corp. v. Ponsock, 103 Nev. 39, 732 P2d 1364, 1368.

A legal wrong committed upon the person or property independent of contract. It may be either (1) a direct invasion of some legal right of the individual; (2) the infraction of some public duty by which special damage accrues to the individual: (3) the violation of some private obligation by which like damage accrues to the individual.

Notice that a crime is an act against the State, but a tort is against an individual. So if you murder someone how is that a crime against the State? Please note that when you are charged with an offense, you are charged with violating a code or statute, not for violating the individual. The reason this is being done is because the State claims to own you, so if you kill someone it is the State that has been damaged.

A tort is either mala in se or a breech of contract that causes a damage. There must be intent, but to commit a crime against the State there does not need to be intent.

Mala prohibita. Prohibited wrongs or offenses; acts which are made offenses by positive laws, and prohibited as such. Acts or omissions which are made criminal by statute but which, of themselves, are not criminal. Generally, no criminal intent or mens rea is required and the mere accomplishment of the act or omission is sufficient for criminal liability. Term is used in contrast to mala in se which are acts which are wrong in themselves such as robbery.

When you don't file a 1040, that is an omission.

Statute. A formal written enactment of a legislative body, whether federal, state, city, or county. An act of the legislature declaring, commanding, or prohibiting something; a particular law enacted and established by the will of the legislative department of government; the written will of the legislature, solemnly expressed according to the forms necessary to constitute it the law of the state. Such may be public or private, declaratory, mandatory, directory, or enabling in nature.

Will. Wish; desire; pleasure; inclination; choice; the faculty of conscious, and especially of deliberate, action. When a person expresses his "will" that a particular disposition be made of his property, his words are words of command, and the word "will" as so used is mandatory, comprehensive, and dispositive in nature.

Will. An Instrument by which a person makes a disposition of his real and personal property, to take effect after his death, and which by its own nature is ambulatory and revocable during his lifetime. In re Brown's Estate, Tex Civ. App., 507 S.W. 2d 801, 803.

Instrument. Anything reduced to writing, a document of a formal or solemn character, a writing given as a means of affording evidence. A document or writing which gives formal expression to a legal act or agreement, for the purpose of creating, securing, modifying, or terminating a right. A writing executed and delivered as the evidence of an act or agreement. Moore v. Diamond Dry Goods Co., 47 Ariz 128, 54 P2d 553, 554.

Do you understand the Two different ways they use the word "will." What they do is reduce their "will" to writing and then enforce it at the point of a gun. This writing is also called a "Will."

Will, Statute, Instrument, and Code are synonymous.

Do you understand where this going? "Will" is the disposition of property by someone's command. A Statute is the Written Will of a Legislature. It used to be stated as "will and testament" Do you understand that when a Legislature passes an act they are creating or modifying a will. You are considered property of the State. Are you getting the picture? A code or statute is a "Will."

The Codes and Statutes of every State are Wills.

(Note. When you are charged and warehoused in a jail it is because you went against the "Will" of your "Master." It is not because you harmed another Being.
--Nicole)

Does not a 1040 form have a label?

Label. Anything appended to a larger writing, as a codicil.

In English law, a copy of a writ in the Exchequer.

Exchequer. That department of the English government which has charge of the collection of the national revenue; the treasury department.

Codicil. A supplement or addition to a will; it may explain, modify, add to, subtract from, qualify, alter, restrain or revoke provisions in existing will. Such does not purport to dispose of entire estate or to contain the entire will of testator, nor does it ordinarily expressly or by necessary implication revoke in toto a prior will. In re Crooke Estate, 388 Pa. 125, 130 A.2d 185, 187.

Do you understand why people are forced to file a 1040 ? Because King George was the Prince Elector and Arch Treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire and of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.[[ See APFN web page: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/colony.htm ]]

The Constitution is the "Will." Why do you think in the preamble to the Constitution it says "to ourselves and our Posterity?" Just read Article six section one. Remember the loans, IRS Publication 6209 (1040 for UK), the First Bank of the United States and numerous debt collection acts. Do you understand why in 26 U.S.C. there is no law requiring you to file? It is the Constitution that requires you to file, Article six section one! Do the IRS agents know this? Look at all of the Acts (Supplements to the Will) that have been passed to collect your labor, the symbols (electrons) that represent your labor. Now do you understand why the Constitution was never put to the people for a vote? It is because they were the property (citizens, persons, etc.) mentioned in the Will (Constitution). Now do you see why the Constitution was drafted in secret? Do you understand that when you pay with your labor you are adding electrons to the Estate and when you get a refund (electrons) you are subtracting from the Estate? Do you understand the importance of Codicil and Label? They don't even have to connect the machine to our udders, we are self-milking slaves.

The words charge and discharge are used in the imaginary laws of commerce because we are forced through our ignorance to use electrons as a medium of exchange. Don't you ever wonder why you are asked by a cashier if you would like to charge it? The slip that the cashier hands you is the symbol of the electrons that have just entered the Circuit. Why do you think when you are dragged into one of their 'courts' they tell you that you have been 'charged'? What do you think a 'Transmitting Utility' in Article nine of the Uniform Commercial Code is? So guess what the Transmitter is? Guess what is being broadcast, charged and discharged? People do not see the wave only the symbol of the wave. They do not know that the wave even exists.

Why do you think that they pass bills? A bill is a charge for goods or services. Then you have the 'Bill of Rights'. A 'Right' is one mans ability with the assistance of the state to control others (Blacks Law Dict.). That is why you must pay a filing fee when you file a suit against someone. You are being charged to use the State to force other people to be jurors, witnesses etc. Jurors are people who are being controlled by the State on your behalf.

This is just a sampling of what has been done to us because of our greed, laziness, contempt for our fellow man, having the nerve to pretend to make laws and wanting something for nothing.

We are having Electronic Warfare perpetrated on us. Our very physical bodies work upon electricity. Our thoughts are electricity. The thoughts that are placed into our minds are placed there through the use of electricity. The thoughts that you think are your own are not. You have to become aware. Please make an attempt to analyze the program that has been placed in you. You have to understand that the person who is in 'charge' is the one who controls thought by way of controlling the electricity in your brain. Think about it. If you had a plumber to your home and he tracked mud all over your carpet you would phone the company who employed him and ask to speak to the person in charge. The person in charge is the one who controls the electric current in the plumbers brain. Now if the plumber can not be controlled, he will be 'fired' or in other words discharged.

What do people do when they are upset, they write to a legislator, one of their Masters? Legislatures were created for one purpose, to make you the property and to manage the electrical current in your brain. If a group of people can command you to act or not to act and take your labor, what are you? If they have the power to declare that an act that is not criminal, is a criminal act, what are they? You are a slave and they are your master. The thought that legislators, judges etc are in 'charge' has been willfully and deliberately placed in your brain so that you will be their slaves.

E = I x R

A bank is a capacitor in which the electrons flow to from ground. A check or money order etc. are the symbol which represents the electrons. (See definition of money in U.C.C.) A loan is actually the procedure that is done to cause electrons to enter into the circuit. The check that you receive from the bank is the symbol of the electrons that have been put into a capacitor (account) in your name. This is accomplished by a few key strokes on a computer key board. The charge (electrons) are transferred from account to account (capacitor to capacitor) when a good or service is transmitted. This is done either by wire or satellite. (See Electronic Fund Transfer Blacks Law Dict. 6th Ed.) Remember an electron is both a wave and a particle. The system must never be allowed to become balanced. There has to always be a debt (something owed) in order for the electrons to flow. If electrons were not removed from the circuit the capacitors would all become equally charged and all commerce would cease. If the capacitors were all equal and the circuit was balanced how could one capacitor discharge into another. The Internal Revenue Service withdraws electrons from the Circuit by way of what is called an 'Income Tax'. Income is the Electrons that have flowed into the circuit. There are other ways that remove electrons but this is the most noticeable. There has to be a load on the system in order for the electrons to flow. This must be done in order to allow commerce to flow. A debt can never be paid. A debt can only be discharged. The Circuit can be controlled by changing the Force, Current, or Resistance. Your labor is actually dissipated. The harder the people labor the more electrons they remove from the Circuit. There becomes too many electrons in the Circuit for the amount of goods and services consumed. So 'Taxes' must be raised or, in other words, the load must be increased. When they tell you that the economy is expanding it means that the Circuit is getting larger. Notice that when they tell you the economy is expanding most people are working harder and their standard of living is dropping
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My sentiments exactly!

There is absolutely nothing selfish about that.

 

Character?

Could it be that, the more we save people from the consequences of their actions (or inaction in this case), the less they see the need to do anything about it?

If they didn't eat if they didn't work, they might try hard to get a job and be a little less picky.

On the other hand, if you were an employer and some one wanted a job, you would try harder to create jobs if the alternative was watching people starve.

It might even get to be called "community spirit".

 

Yosy, wow, I read most of that then just got real worried ahah. It's really hurt my head.. I wow.. never mind just wow.

I've lost most of my arguments that I had for all these other people.. but one..
Shounak, you talk about basic economics. What about removing disposable income from house holds to limit spending in the economy to reduce the chance of inflation? Forgive me if I've stated it wrong there, I haven't done economics for a few years (Have micro and macro next semester though).

"Low income workers should get skilled."

I won't be stupid and say that that's impossible, but be realistic. Not everybody can. Think about people with social problems that can't even venture out into the world. Think about people with disabilities that don't know how to cross a road, or even speak. Total extremes I know, but apply it less liberally across the board and you'll get the picture.

Granted, there are plenty of lazy assholes that sit around smoking dope for their entire lives, living off what ALL tax payers have to pay. That's why I have no problems with GST (although the application in Australia I have a problem with).

Also, regarding your incentives comment. Basic foundation of management.. money is not the best incentive.. not always anyway. Money will work for a little while, and to a certain point, but after that point it is unaffected. No matter what you're getting taxed, whether it's raised or lowered, I'd argue there is no incentive (either more or less) change because you will still be getting paid your gross wage despite actual hours worked or productivity.
I won't go into the motivation causes, because that's outside the 'scope' of this thread.

ANYHOW..

What about socio-economic factors? Again I won't take it to the extreme (every black person in New York has no chance), but certain parts ring true. It's not just academic factors which influence your life, it's also your peers, society, background etc.

Politics/Religion is the same in regards to, you're hardly EVER going to change someones viewpoint. However, just try to understand someone elses viewpoint. I honestly can't understand how you can say there should be a flat tax. Of course you live at a higher standard of living.. you're expenditure increases IN PROPORTION to your wage. You earn $80k per year, and your expenses are greater proportionately, not directly. So if expenses are in proportion, why shouldn't tax be?

Maybe that's not a very clear argument, but the idea is there.

Shounak, you say you're a die-hard capitalist. Capitalism is driven on the division between the low-income and high-income. It's what drives people to be better. If we didn't have the low-income, unskilled, socially inept people, you'd be spending money buying the **** shovels to clean out your own seweridge. The money doesn't just go to all the alcoholics and drug addicts of our country (although some does - and you have to realise that there is a reason - though you may not understand it - for those people) but to compensate the also hard-working, less skilled people for doing the jobs you don't even want to think about.

Forgive me if the flow isn't there and it makes no sense, but this is a topic I'm extremely passionate about.

 

Money is ok of a system and when you use money you need a tax system
to finance infrasructure ect
its the debt credit system and the operators of the money system that have made it all seem like the way it is
is the only way it works for generations.
Now we have all been trapped into slavery through agreeing to play the game.