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Discussion in 'General' started by greenfoam, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. kwik6

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    reason im arguing is because when i bought my Nissan Skyline GTST it was running 13.9 quaters and whenever i lined up any vn v8 i would swamp em bad!!! So they came across as a slow car to me. Plus i only had 180kw at the fly at the time. Even now when i head out to Calder park raceway, best time for stock vn 8's is high 14's to mid 15's anyway?? Just another thing, i own a v6 vn with few bolt ons and couldnt do better than a mid 14 pass yet i still beat a ss vn!!!??? funny that.
     
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    Yeah a 100% stock VN with the stock tune only runs a high 14 or low 15 depending on what it weighs but just adding 2 degrees of base timing on the dizzy drops the 1/4 by .3, The whole spark map changed is worth more than half a second in my car. now your alleady at 14.5 at least in a manual and not far off that in a auto. The SV5000 has this done plus has a good exhaust, bigger cam and more. There was a whole thread on street commodores not long ago with guys posting times for stock VN/VP 5 liters and quite a few of them had run in the 14.0-14.5 range, these are guys that are now running 11 second cars and know how to drive down a drag strip and had the talent right from the word go, not average joes too
     
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    The SV5000 is far from stock.....200kw at the time was huge. Especially in such a light car. Hell i seen standard SV89's run 13.8 before. In manual trim with how light they are they flew.
     
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    so ur saying a sv89 is quicker than a VZ SS 5.7 litre?? lol ok lets line em up shall we.
     
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    Why wouldnt it be? Why do you find it so hard?

    For the record i have seen stock VZ/VY SS's run 13.7's. I have also seen stockies run 14.4

    If you had 2 similar kilometre cars then yes, i think the SV89 will win :)
     
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    Driven both, VZ ss would kill it. stock trim, no exhaust mods either. your talking about a 5 litre verses a 5.7 litre, both stock, and the 5.7 litre having alot more kw and torque. Time for a google search on stock times for both these cars lol
     
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    Hmmmmmm
    First off the SV5000 weights around 1390kg vs the VZ SS's 1650kg.
    Another thing to consider is that the SS makes its stated power only when run on 98RON, where as the SV makes 200kw on anything, so if we tuned it to run on 98 the power levels are getting closer.
    Also the SV run a live axle rear, which means it will get away from the line cleaner then the SS would.
    Just some things to consider.
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    i dont think holden would go backwards in performance after nearly 17 years do u?
     
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    Your forgeting that it is HSV and GMH we are comparing, totally different.
    Power wise the SS might have more, but power to weight, getting it to the ground and the torque curve all favour the SV.
    The problem is that cars used to be marketed for how they drove and how quick they were, now its just how big the KW fiqure in the brouchre is.
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    but the fact that an SV5000 is 17 years old now also means a stock one would have lost much of those new kw it came out with. wear and tare etc...
     
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    Nothing a simple service wouldnt fix.
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    I know of two SV5000's in north Adelaide that have done under 140,000km's

    Many HSV's like these have done considerably less km's than a normal VN.
     
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    can someone post and find stock times for both these 2 cars? lol from more than one resource though coz some magz can be biased etc...
     
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    lol, kwik6, i suggest you realise that age doesnt mean anything, you are comparing what is classed as one of the finer HSV's against a production run vehicle. Mate give up whiel you can.
     
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    Yeah the HSV SV5000 is one of the most legendary HSV's of all time. Along with the VN Group A, VS GTSR, HSV GTS 300 etc.
     
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    Not the flying banana thats for sure. You paid more for it to be slower then a standard GTS.
    Yes kwik6 you fail to realise that with only 359 made they are ALL looked after with low k's, unlike VN V6 execs.
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    Im still sure if i saw them both in a run on the street a VZ 5.7 would eat it. The SV5000 was heaviest of all the SV models since it had the leather interior and calais extras didnt it?
     
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    whats a vr bt1 v6 A4? sounds like a cross breed between an Audi and a commodore exec? or that another SV model limited edition? never heard of it thats all?
     
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    A BT1 is a police pack...Not sure what the A4 stands for?
     
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    *yawn*
    You dont get out much do you?
    BT1 is the option code for the state emergency services cars. V6 means its a 6 cylinder in a V configuration. A4 means its an automatic transmission with 4 forward gears.......
    But what has that got to do with this thread?
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