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Fly wheel/starter thread issue

Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by PaRaDoX, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. PaRaDoX

    PaRaDoX Because Racecouch...

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    hey guys,

    recently my car hasnt been starting properly, the starter was a 2nd hand one i replaced 2 months ago (20/6/06 to be exact) anyway, 1/4 times the starter will spin, but wont grip the fly wheel, it makes a loud noise kinda like a ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sound... ive been getting round it by opening the bonnet and pulling the fan belt until the crank turns alittle bit, then she starts fine,

    the starter hasnt been making the best noises since i put it in, but i didnt have the $$ for a new one at the time, i also checked my fly wheel, it has some wear on it but nothing drastically bad, once the cars started its fine,

    when it dosnt start the starter is spinning (i can hear it)

    ive come to the conclusion that either a tooth on the flywheel is too worn for the starter(or several) or its the starter tread, which i think it might be...
    has anyone got any opinions before i go ripping my starter out again to inspect the flywheel/starter tread???(gonna have to do it anyway)

    anyway any help would be useful, cheers

    anyone know how much a new flywheel is??? i dont want to replace it if i dont have to as its a BIG JOB
     
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    You might have threaded the bolts or housing when you put the new starter in. I had a Torana with a worked 202 in it and the starter wasn't meshing with the flywheel properly cause the starter was on an angle - the thread in the alloy where it bolts in had gone, wore out a big chunk of flywheel too from trying to start it HA HA. It started ok after I put some bigger bolts in, even with 2 inches of flywheel having no teeth. And it made a hell of a noise before I fixed it. Take the inspection plate off and get someone to manually turn the engine over so you can see if the flywheel has worn anywhere and check the starter is bolted in tight and straight. But it's probably a worn starter motor i reckon and slipping.
     
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    OMFG, just removed the starter, the fly wheel is absolutly rooted to the shithouse, half the tread is missing on about 1/4 of the wheel, no wonder... oh well anyone know how to change one?? tranny has to come out yeah???
    ill post a picture later
     
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    Yes the tranny will have to come out. I am not certain on the ring gear but most can be replaced instead of the whole flywheel. The main reason a certain section gets buggered up is the fact the engine will favour a certain position to stop. When we have been stuck on some bush jobs we have removed the ring gear & turned it on the flywheel so the starter begins engaging on a different spot. I am not saying that this is what you should do as a ring gear will only cost up to $100 and probably another $50 to get it swapped over.
     
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    ok guys, just so you can see how rooted it was

    starter wasnt gripping, just grinding... im up for around $300, got a new starter aswell for free,
     
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    hahahahha despite the ring gear being badly worn the new starter motor works flawlessly, no more issues :) this one sounds beefy aswell :)
     

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