Jono.Mc.
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- 2006 VE Calais V High output 3.6 auto
Hi all.
Hoping to get some advice. My health is not what it used to be, so I was unable to be with my son to check out this car.
My second son purchased a low km yellow ve series ii sv6 with the lfx engine in immaculate condition inside and out. No tears, chips, fade basically like it would be from factory.
When he got home, I found some issues with it.
#1. The brake pedal pulsated when pressure was applied.
#2. The engine oil smelt like raw fuel.
#3. Bad smell of fuel around the right rear wheel
#4. I found all the signs of a massive rear damage fix being, new lights, spoiler, boot, rear windscreen, left and rear quarter panels, boot lining, wheel well etc etc.
So 1, 2 and 4 were easy fixes and were,
Front brake pads were installed around the wrong way causing the nipples on the pads to rock and resulted in 2 damaged rotors.
Replaced fuel injectors after finding one was stuck open and revealing one almost completely closed up due to a gorilla lining up an injector in a hole.
Now here is where I'm at wits end. Car has no engine codes. I dived into the history of the car and found a crap load of codes from about 2 years ago, being obviously when it had a rear end hit and yep, the air bags went off which explains the new steering wheel and side panels.
As per the picture you will see what we found.
Given the color of the yellow plastic of the pump says this has been happening for a while.
Around the sender of the main pump is a lovely dam of fuel and a nice calming slow waterfall of fuel going down the right side of the tank.
Keeping in mind how much was replace due to some sort or rear collision we started with doing the following in this order.
#1. Removed the fuel tank and inspected the underside of the car having with me my eldest son who is a panel beater who was dumb founded by how much was replaced and the car not written off (this was checked before purchased)
Replaced the "Y" fuel line from the sender on top of the tank and also the "O" ring on the fuel pump. Within the week leaking fuel again.
#2. Removed fuel tank again. Inspected the metal flange around the pump for level and cracks. Tighten the fingers around the metal plate holding down the pump forcing more pressure on the "O" ring. Filled up the tank and stood it on its side for 2 hours, no leaks.
Put it all back together. Within a week leaking fuel again.
#3. Purchased a complete setup of tank, pumps, lines, wiring and charcoal cannister. got under the car with a trolley jack and a carefully cut pieces of hard wood. Lined up where the fuel pump is and raised just that section of floor about 4mm. Filled the new tank with fuel and sat it on its side for nearly 3 hours with no leaks, cleaned it out and installed. Yep, leaked again.
Rang a lot of mechanics for suggestions and all were dumb founded and admitted that was all they would do. Found a really helpful guy at Veloce Automotive who name has slipped my mind but said he was a mechanic with the holden racing team when the ve commodores first arrived.
After a good long brain overflowing with knowledge chat, he came to the conclusion the fuel rail and fuel vapor line from the rear of the car to the engine bay must have crap in it from when it sat at the penal beaters with no fuel tank in it and nothing covering the fuel line.
So I think I covered everything that we did. There is no pressure at the fuel cap. Only leaks when running. Suspecting to much fuel pressure in the line from the sender to the engine bay as also when it gets bad there is a hint of fuel at the joins near the brake booster.
Possible faulty purge valve but again no codes.
So, I'm open to suggestions and no, my son won't sell the car, because he is determined to fix it.
Hoping to get some advice. My health is not what it used to be, so I was unable to be with my son to check out this car.
My second son purchased a low km yellow ve series ii sv6 with the lfx engine in immaculate condition inside and out. No tears, chips, fade basically like it would be from factory.
When he got home, I found some issues with it.
#1. The brake pedal pulsated when pressure was applied.
#2. The engine oil smelt like raw fuel.
#3. Bad smell of fuel around the right rear wheel
#4. I found all the signs of a massive rear damage fix being, new lights, spoiler, boot, rear windscreen, left and rear quarter panels, boot lining, wheel well etc etc.
So 1, 2 and 4 were easy fixes and were,
Front brake pads were installed around the wrong way causing the nipples on the pads to rock and resulted in 2 damaged rotors.
Replaced fuel injectors after finding one was stuck open and revealing one almost completely closed up due to a gorilla lining up an injector in a hole.
Now here is where I'm at wits end. Car has no engine codes. I dived into the history of the car and found a crap load of codes from about 2 years ago, being obviously when it had a rear end hit and yep, the air bags went off which explains the new steering wheel and side panels.
As per the picture you will see what we found.
Given the color of the yellow plastic of the pump says this has been happening for a while.
Around the sender of the main pump is a lovely dam of fuel and a nice calming slow waterfall of fuel going down the right side of the tank.
Keeping in mind how much was replace due to some sort or rear collision we started with doing the following in this order.
#1. Removed the fuel tank and inspected the underside of the car having with me my eldest son who is a panel beater who was dumb founded by how much was replaced and the car not written off (this was checked before purchased)
Replaced the "Y" fuel line from the sender on top of the tank and also the "O" ring on the fuel pump. Within the week leaking fuel again.
#2. Removed fuel tank again. Inspected the metal flange around the pump for level and cracks. Tighten the fingers around the metal plate holding down the pump forcing more pressure on the "O" ring. Filled up the tank and stood it on its side for 2 hours, no leaks.
Put it all back together. Within a week leaking fuel again.
#3. Purchased a complete setup of tank, pumps, lines, wiring and charcoal cannister. got under the car with a trolley jack and a carefully cut pieces of hard wood. Lined up where the fuel pump is and raised just that section of floor about 4mm. Filled the new tank with fuel and sat it on its side for nearly 3 hours with no leaks, cleaned it out and installed. Yep, leaked again.
Rang a lot of mechanics for suggestions and all were dumb founded and admitted that was all they would do. Found a really helpful guy at Veloce Automotive who name has slipped my mind but said he was a mechanic with the holden racing team when the ve commodores first arrived.
After a good long brain overflowing with knowledge chat, he came to the conclusion the fuel rail and fuel vapor line from the rear of the car to the engine bay must have crap in it from when it sat at the penal beaters with no fuel tank in it and nothing covering the fuel line.
So I think I covered everything that we did. There is no pressure at the fuel cap. Only leaks when running. Suspecting to much fuel pressure in the line from the sender to the engine bay as also when it gets bad there is a hint of fuel at the joins near the brake booster.
Possible faulty purge valve but again no codes.
So, I'm open to suggestions and no, my son won't sell the car, because he is determined to fix it.