Yeah I know what you mean about delivery state of vehicles. Look I just went to CCP website, spoke to the guys there. When I picked up my vehicle, 20000ks on the clock, the roof felt like it had sand embeded into it. Anyway a 25 dollar claybar kit, some Duragloss glaze/sealer and regular applications of Optimum spray wax, she looks a million bucks. Swirls and scratches and etchings are a differant story, but what i was able to do with a 60 dollar outlay, the Holden dealer i bought from wanted to charge me 1500dollars for the same thing, they told me they clay bar it that is why it is expensive, ooooohhhhh clay barring, ooooohhhhhhh. yeah I know it took me 7 hrs and a six pack, from whoa to go, not just claybarring, but pre-wash with an APC, then claybarring, another wash, then glaze/sealer application and hand buff off, then a coat of wax, well fark me. I might go into the car detailing business, my Phantom paint work looks so wet, it is like a pool of oil, black, glossy and deep. OOoh yeah baby. I am sure the dealer 1500 dollar job would not have someone take 7 hrs, nor would they be as detailed as I am on my own car, you know what I mean. Hell I ended up buying a gernie, foam lance snow foam and some aerospace 303 all that **** cost 400dollars, still less than that 1500 dollar quote. Yes I am very pleased with my efforts and would encourage others to do so as well. Like I said, scratches/swirls/etchings, best left to the pro's with their machines and paint thickness gauges etc.