if you want it just for the learning & restrictions etc.. you cant go past a cbr250 for an all rounder, although no 4 stroke 250 will be 'quick' unless its a 2 stroke. Ive got a repsol 125 2 stroke that will eat any stock 250 cc 4 stroke in performance & handling.. in brisbane, can have it for 3500 with helmet.
actually if you want a tough 250 4 stroke instead of a 2 stroke, go the yamaha virago. alot of chrome & performance mixed for a good price, should pick one up for 4 grand.
is the pstie bike a ct110? i just got a ct185 and its not too shabby.. would love the one in the pic but looks a bit girly for my liking... but id swap my kick start for your electric dtart anyday...and that chrome exhaust looks a treat, do you burn your leg often or does it just clear it?
ha, yeah its a 2002 ct110, im the first owner after australia post...have no issues with the exhaust, clears the leg easy, plus where its closest to you leg it got a double layer heat shield, so it barely get warm also no electric starts around here, both mine are kick, you dont win races with a heavy starter motors. lol yeah there not too bad for a 250, mine got a leaking oil injector, when i ride it everyday you wouldnt notice it but when you leave it sitting for about 3 days or more, it gets oil build up, then it takes a good 5 minutes for it to stop pumping out massive amounts of smoke about 3 months ago my mate sold his cbr for a R1, and that thing is such a good bike, endless amounts of power
Except with CBR250's almost every single one of them for sale has been dropped or absolutely thrashed. They are the bike of choice for moron's on bikes. Honda VFR400 is a more torquey predictable beast, looks similar and is still one of the best handlers out there. Kawasaki ZX2R/ZXR250's have nice handling, the popular ninja look and pretty tame down low but a great power band up top, much easier to ride than a CBR250 when you're first starting out. The hyosung GT250R is a great looking bike with good performance as well, the GT600R with carby restriction is also learner legal, and the simple removal of a part will give you plenty more power once you can legally do it. My advice is not to spend too much on your first bike, it's great to have a beautiful bike with all the bells and whistles, but dropping it is inevitable when you're learning. As the saying goes "There are two types of motorcycle riders, those who have crashed, and those that will." Get something that you can handle, make sure you get top quality gear, and make sure you won't break the bank if you crash it. As for recommending 2-strokes, anyone who is suggesting it isn't giving responsible advice. They are far less predictable to ride than a 4-stroke, and hitting the powerband when you're inexperienced is bound to get you in trouble.
I know 5 blokes with Hyosungs, none of them have a bad word to say about them, with all of them racking up well over 5-10,000 km's so far.
I heard about a learner who got stuck on the westgate bridge because his clutch cable went on his hyosung. They look really nice though and They have good quality engines. Im a chump I ride my drz400 on the road. Got it brand new a few weeks ago. Pops 3rd without effort. It is learner approved too.
I actually now know a bloke with a Gt250R, hasn't had any trouble, and with I'm pretty sure a 2 year/20 000km warranty, it really seems like a great choice for a learner.
yeah your right most of them have been dropped, but they are a learner bike, so what do you expect unless you buy brand new???? honda vfr400 in my experience are pricey and over weight or underpowered(depending which way you look at it) the baby ninja- again price, also a learner bike so just as many have been dropped dunno much about the hyosung, but i guess you get what you pay for, sort of like a hyundai, nothing special but will do the job. as for the two stroke thing, there not that insane, just use common sense and you should be right, and im one of those riders that have not crashed,(had many crashes off road but they dont count), and the way i ride, its gonna be a big one when it happens
shouldnt really have been that big of and issue, im sure you would know changing gears on a bike with no clutch isnt a problem, just stopping is. lol
VFR's are one of the most powerful learner legal bikes on the market, and the weight gives them more stability on the road. Their price is pretty similar to most other reliable learner legal bikes on the market $4,000-5000 CBR's tend to be in worse condition than most other "learner legal" bikes because they are the "boy racer's" bike of choice, just like you get with guys driving cheap turbos when they first want a performance car. Ninjas again aren't expensive, pretty much the same as a CBR, but tend to have more responsible riders due to the way power is delivered. As for two strokes, well I hold a completely different opinion, the fact that you're encouraged to rev the hell out of them is reason enough a learner should steer clear of them. The on/off power delivery is far more harsh than a 4-stroke. Easing the throttle is much harder. Obviously after a few weeks one would have the hang of it, but that being said, it's still a sketchy few weeks if you haven't ridden a bike before.
Well i got my learners today and am gonna go look at some bikes in the next week i would think. Just a question- money aside, which would be the best learner approved bike do you think? Im really after the look similar to the CBR250RR, ZXR250 etc. I would preferably like a 2 stroke (i know how to ride 2 stroke, couldnt be too much different from dirt bike powerband?? and like most things, i would get used to it). A guy at Honda told me to steer clear of CBR250RR's- he said parts are hard to get for them and they are mostly grey imports- people buy say 4 dodgy ones and create 1 good one out of them. They definately look the part though. So so far, it would be a toss between CBR250RR and ZXR250..... opinions please and more sugggestions would be awesome. The VFR is also a nice looking bike!
cbr125 for sure........if you want everyone to laugh at you. if money is no issue go for the zx250, dont get them mixed up with a zzr250
I had an 1100 that was learner legal... My first ever bike! I miss it too :cry: Might have to get another one soon...
Better than actual Harleys... The Yamaharleys don't come with factory fitted oil leaks and don't feel like you're riding a washing machine! Trust me I test road a heap of bikes before deciding, including a couple of Harleys..
**** yeah. Me too. All I need is about 25k:bang:. I'm actually looking forward to the 2010 Gsx-R 750, that hopefully will be my next bike. For the bloke wanting advice on what bike to get, don't listen to anyone but yourself. Do your research on what bikes are available to you, ride the ones you are interested and make your decision based on that. I would personally go for a Suzuki Gsx-650F (not sure if it's learner legal or not) as I owned one, but the decision is yours and yours only.
