the hoppa fight was 47secs actually, the other bloke looked like he was having a heart attack after hoppa hit him the first time... mundine, an aboriginal muslim, is an insult to all aboriginals - they're heritage doesnt believe in religion but some how he does... gotta respect the man as a boxer - hes bloody good. but arrogant ppl in this country are cut down pretty quickly so he mite want to keep it down a bit. he talks the talk and one can now say he walks the walk, still doesnt stop him from being a wanker outside the ring.
So being an aboriginal he can't have his own beleifs? That is possibly the stupidest thing i have heard.
Mukas described the fight perfectly in another thread (pre-fight). Green was determined to knock Mundine out but couldn't connect enough times and didn't change his plan at all. Mundine boxed smarter and just picked up the points throughout the fight with a few good hits thrown in. The much smarter boxing by Mundine gave him an easy win. Danny green is a much better boxer than he showed on the night and Mundine is a much better boxer than most gave him credit for. Mundine's Dad, Tony, is reportedly one of the best boxers ever seen in Australia so some of his talent was bound to be passed down. I hate Mundine when he's talking the talk but away from boxing he is a decent bloke who should be respected for his skill as he is a very good boxer. The aim of his talking the talk is to infuriate his opponents as you can't box angry. Works a treat as most just try to knock him out but he moves too quickly for the energy sapping punches to land. There was a famous American boxer who did the same thing, remember him? I wanted Green to win, as I'm from WA, but I thought Mundine would win if Green just tried to knock him out. Alas that is what happened. I don't think there will be a rematch as there will be little interest in it other than from WA fans of Greens.
Mate, if you actually had any real knowledge about anything other than what you believe is true then you would know that Aboriginals, as a people, have the "dreamtime" dating back tens of thousands of years, and collectively do not believe in religion, hence the reason Mundine is as badly looked upon by many as he is... i know eh does all his Aboriginal stuff, catching echidnas n **** (he actually did do this during training) but it kinda spits in the face of his heritage in him becoming a Muslim, and spits in the face of the Muslim faith for becoming one as an Aboriginal... If thats stupid, take it up with an elder and im sure he'll change it all just for you :yeah: :thumbsup:
as big a Danny Green supporter i am (perth, rep danny green!!) i wont deny mundine was the better fighter on the night cheers, Todd p.s. there is a rematch in the contract its one of the clauses, so guess we'll see another round...
You still have no idea do you... Just because he is born an aboriginal it does not mean he has to follow their beleifs. Wether an elder says its ok or it isnt. I was born into a catholic family, i am not catholic. Same thing. I fail to see why you find it hard to understand. People are free to choose what they beleive, if people don't like it they can build a bridge. I applaud him for wanting to beleive in something else.
Mate i dont make the rules... sheesh. i agree with you in the fact that people should be able to believe whatever they want. im just saying from all the information ive been told and read, Aboriginals, as far as beliefs go dont believe in religion. this isnt me saying he's not allowed to. i couldnt give a **** if the bloke studied scientology, im just pointing out something that people may not have known. muslim, christian, hindu, it wouldnt matter...he would still be as arrogant, and as widely disliked as he is.
man i wanted green to win so bad:bang: would have been good to shut up mundine, after months of mouthing off but good on mundine for 'talking the talk and then walking the walk'
if mundie were mute i would back him all the way he was a good footballer and you didnt hear from him much
How don't aboriginals have a religion? Their beleifs alone create their own religion. But anyway, its a dead argument. I like the guy, he has popularised boxing in australia. He drives the crowds to show up, its what the sport needed.
i dunno, but you make a fair point...beliefs religion, are they one in the same? is dead, im over it. the question tho is do you like him, or what he has done for boxing? personally i give the man credit for being an awesome fighter and theres no doubt he backs up what he says. but i dunno, theres a very very fine line between confidence and arrogance and i think mundine falls slighty to the later...
I like him because of his arrogance, i myself beleive arrogance is a sign of confidence, 9/10 tines being arrogant gives you confidence to keep your mind on a job
For a start they are Aborigines not Aboriginals...Something that belongs to their culture is Aboriginal whilst the people are Aborigines... They have a collectivist culture so they share the one belief unlike Western Society. Aborigines are an incredibly religious race, with their spirituality being the 'hub of the wheel' of their society. The Dreaming is not considered a Religion as it does not meet the requirements of a Religion as they have no sacred texts (they have an oral tradition). It is instead considered a spirituality, but they are still a religious culture, much more so than the Western World. But you're definitely right that his Muslim faith would be heavily frowned upon by Aboriginal society, and in an Aboriginal tribe he would be outcasted.
thankyou, someone who actually knows. it is a religion in a sense, but not officially...i wouldnt say much more religious, ide call it traditional, but im not of that decent so they call it as they wish. i hope minux has read this!
Mate i know what you are saying, all i am trying to say is who cares what he beleive's. Just because family/race believe one thing, doesnt mean you have to beleive.
as a non-aborigine i agree with the fact that one should be able to choose their own religion, if they choose religion at all. my point was just that he is using his heritage and the change in religion as a marketing tool, to bring more attention to himself, which i find pretty ordinary. To show confidence is to show trust in ones ability, but arrogance, that is showing an overbearing sense of superiority. thats him and he does it in an attempt to unsettle opponents, and it more often than not works coz hes opponents just want to smash him, not outbox him...
