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Grounding Kit

Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by tiersum, Jan 4, 2008.

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    it certainly can't hurt. i think their are a few members who have made there own earthing kits on there cars. normally a decent link between the 2 heads (on a V engine) and head to chassis and battery also. can't hurt to include the alternator also as all electrical power does originate there
     
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    I recently bought some 4 gauge wire and redone all my negative earthing wire's in the engine bay, cant say that it improved the car much. I have herd of a voltage stabilizer that can help the grounding hit perform better though, can be found on ebay.
     
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    i think to do it properly you need to include the alternator in the earthing circuit. there are after all power cables for all the positive feeds however the negative side of the circuit starting at the alternator has to earth through alternator housing to mounting bracket to head to block to battery etc. not a very efficient path really

    not that your going to feel a power increase when you drive it, it's more about increasing the efficiency of the electrical system of the car for peak performance. i have seen dyno results of before and after fiting a earthing kit however the gain was very small (possibly even less then the variation seen when doing back to back runs on the same setup. i think they even allowed the engine to cool just to make the results more repeatable and accurate)
     
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    Yeah, I see what you mean. On the 5.0L there are 3 main straps,

    Battery-Drivers side Guard
    Battery-Engine Block
    Alternator Bracket-Passenger side body/guard

    These are the factory locations for earth straps, which I replaced.
    I made sure all the connectors were touching bare metal. Maybe I should run one from the alternator bracket to the block point? Should I even bother? I don't think one strap will make much of a difference.
     
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    i'd maybe add a strap from head to head (do this at the back of the block where there are a few spare threaded holes) and alternator to head to battery. the direct current path from battery/alternator to heads should give the best results for the ignition/sparkplugs to fire a nice big bright spark
     
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    Would not touch this thing with a stick. Almost $60 for a couple of meters of wire? No way. The seller has a list of "advantages". If this kit did improve anything with your car there would be something wrong with your car to begin with. Improved fuel economy? How? Improved engine torque? How? You can take a thousand pieces of wire and strap them all over your car, it might make you feel good but one piece of decent wire would have the same result. If you are concerned about the wiring, go over it yourself and if you arent happy with a factory wire or connection go to your local battery shop and they should be able to make a new lead up for you for a couple of bucks. You only pay for the length of wire you use and two terminals on either end. If your looking at this as a way to improve performance you are better off putting that money towards something that works.
     
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    im curious to know peoples opinons ont he voltage stabiliser then whilst runing a decent earth setup. surely the stabilizer itself is a worthwhile thing for the whole electrical side of things
     
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    If the factory earth wiring isnt doing its job fix it, providing extra earths can only lead to dramas if there is any looping issues & some are not 100%.

    Rob
     
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    i'd only be worried about looping issues for screened cables. i certainly wouldn't purchase this kit either. you could make it yourself for much less buying cable and fittings from jaycar. that way you could also make em to the correct length to suit your application
     
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    A voltage stabiliser is usually little more than a voltage dependant resistor (MOV). They are designed to take a large voltage spike that contains very little power for an extremly short duration. The battery is the main 'stabiliser' as it will smooth most variations - if youre having electrical troubles the problem is going to be a fault, ie bad battery etc - one of these 'stabilisers' is not a cure for the problem.
     
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    Hi guys, what a really believe that cleaning the battery connectors, refreshing the chases to negative pole connectors with fine sand paper and give the nuts a good torque will do it all.
     

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