VFSV6FORME
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Epilogue
Well the Caprice V with a L77 and a 6L80E auto gearbox has been finished. I took my time and done it right. I gave the box a 1.7 ltr flush and added 2.2 Ltr AC Delco Dexron 6 back in then run the car for a minute in P then checked R, N, D, M1. M2, M3, for 5 seconds then back to D and stopped it at P. Now when I started the Car the gearbox temp was 25 Deg C and by the time I finished the above it was 28 Deg C so I waited, waited, waited until 35 Deg come up (it flashed early firstly but eventually after a few second it become a steady 35 Deg C ) and waited until it was flashing 36 then 36 Deg C Steady and I removed the over flow bolt and a steady stream come out for a second or so then it dripped around the edges of the Bolt hole. I measured what came out it was 210 ml......
WARNING !!! When you take the overflow bolt off and a steady stream comes out at the Correct Temperature then you will get a drip around the edges of the Bolt hole you must put the plug back in immediately otherwise it wont stop dripping around the edges of the hole because the gearbox is getting hotter and hotter the oil expands more oil come out because the oil is still expanding and before you know it the Auto will be 60 or 70 Deg C and it still will be dripping out continually and you will have a scenario of a UNDER FILLED 6L80E Auto.
Now you have read what I have written before about how long it takes for the Temperature to go down from 80 Deg C (Normal Driving Temp) to around 40 Deg C ( you need a minumium of 35 Deg C) so What I would like to know how can they the Professionals do a service on your car because Time is money and they will not wait for the car to become cooler and if you drive you car to their premise's they will take your car in close to straight away and drain the auto oil when hot and fill it with cold oil and although the gearbox is starting to cool down the pan will be at ambient temp (washed now) then they will fit the pan on and the residual Gearbox Temp will heat the pan up and I bet my last dollar the 6L80E will be hotter than 30 Deg C so how can they do the job CORRECTLY.
For me as you start the car then Go through all the gears @ 5 seconds apart then hoist the car up or even they might have a blu tooth device plugged into the OBD 2 Port and use their phone with a app and to get the correct temperature ( Just about Impossible) I bet before you say SH.IT the temperture will be at or over 50 Deg C and you do this and fill it and release the over flow bolt and if you are slow the temp will be @60 or more until you put the bolt back in and before you know it you will end up having a 6L80E that is UNDER FILL Gearbox.
By the way, I test the temp on the Pan when doing this process and at around 37 deg on the Computer using the ELM 327 Street program and at the same time the hand held IR Gun was 34 Deg on the 3M device.
Well the Caprice V with a L77 and a 6L80E auto gearbox has been finished. I took my time and done it right. I gave the box a 1.7 ltr flush and added 2.2 Ltr AC Delco Dexron 6 back in then run the car for a minute in P then checked R, N, D, M1. M2, M3, for 5 seconds then back to D and stopped it at P. Now when I started the Car the gearbox temp was 25 Deg C and by the time I finished the above it was 28 Deg C so I waited, waited, waited until 35 Deg come up (it flashed early firstly but eventually after a few second it become a steady 35 Deg C ) and waited until it was flashing 36 then 36 Deg C Steady and I removed the over flow bolt and a steady stream come out for a second or so then it dripped around the edges of the Bolt hole. I measured what came out it was 210 ml......
WARNING !!! When you take the overflow bolt off and a steady stream comes out at the Correct Temperature then you will get a drip around the edges of the Bolt hole you must put the plug back in immediately otherwise it wont stop dripping around the edges of the hole because the gearbox is getting hotter and hotter the oil expands more oil come out because the oil is still expanding and before you know it the Auto will be 60 or 70 Deg C and it still will be dripping out continually and you will have a scenario of a UNDER FILLED 6L80E Auto.
Now you have read what I have written before about how long it takes for the Temperature to go down from 80 Deg C (Normal Driving Temp) to around 40 Deg C ( you need a minumium of 35 Deg C) so What I would like to know how can they the Professionals do a service on your car because Time is money and they will not wait for the car to become cooler and if you drive you car to their premise's they will take your car in close to straight away and drain the auto oil when hot and fill it with cold oil and although the gearbox is starting to cool down the pan will be at ambient temp (washed now) then they will fit the pan on and the residual Gearbox Temp will heat the pan up and I bet my last dollar the 6L80E will be hotter than 30 Deg C so how can they do the job CORRECTLY.
For me as you start the car then Go through all the gears @ 5 seconds apart then hoist the car up or even they might have a blu tooth device plugged into the OBD 2 Port and use their phone with a app and to get the correct temperature ( Just about Impossible) I bet before you say SH.IT the temperture will be at or over 50 Deg C and you do this and fill it and release the over flow bolt and if you are slow the temp will be @60 or more until you put the bolt back in and before you know it you will end up having a 6L80E that is UNDER FILL Gearbox.
By the way, I test the temp on the Pan when doing this process and at around 37 deg on the Computer using the ELM 327 Street program and at the same time the hand held IR Gun was 34 Deg on the 3M device.