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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by TSMAX, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. TSMAX

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    Hi Guys
    I am looking to upgrade my headlights to 6000k LED's along with parkers, number plate, reverse and interior lights. I have found a place called Night vision OZ who have upgraded a few VF's and claim the light output increases substantially. With the photos I have seen so far it does not seem that the headlight would be blinding the oncoming traffic unlike some of the retrofit HID kits I have seen.
    Has anyone here done this and found a big difference in the light output, apart from the nice white looks ?
     
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    You can't tell whether it's blinding somebody unless you're the one being blinded.

    Even though the pattern thrown onto the road might look 'okay', that doesn't mean that it's not shining in the eyes of oncoming drivers.

    If you go ahead, make sure the lights are DOT/ADR approved for road use. There's a good reason most, if not all of them aren't.

    Btw 6000k is for wank factor. 4300k is the best for vision in a wide variety of weather and road conditions (greater penetration, less reflection off road signs).
     
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    Stay away from Night Vision OZ, the dude running the show there has been booted from that many facebook groups as he does bad installs and doesn't offer refunds even after some of his kits stop working after a few weeks. Plus what he installs is illegal anyway. Don't be one of those guys who installs super bright lights and thinks it's awesome but everyone else on the road hates you as you are blinding them.
     
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    Absolutely spot on
     
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    Check out Blingwork Automotive Lighting. I have bought JW Speaker units from them for my other cars. They are very well made. They sell kits for the Commodore VF. I have not used them on my SSVR as I do not want to use a resistor to stop CANBUS warnings. I have instead used upgraded Philips halogen bulbs with good effect. I also had the headlights aimed at an auto electrical centre. I am waiting to see what the new genuine Philips H7 LED is like. There are no European or Australian standards for LED or HID conversion bulbs yet so they can only officially be sold for off-road use. To my knowledge, and I could be wrong, headlights that produce no more than 2000 lumens per side do not need washers or self-levelling. I believe that the genuine Philips H7 HID conversion kit falls into this category. I have used it on another vehicle with projector headlights for 6 years without being flashed. There are many new cars with factory-fitted LED lights that do not have self-levelling or washers. I suspect that you can trust Philips have properly designed their H7 LED/HID halogen replacement bulbs.
     
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    I have added LED high beams and HID low beams, which were a factory option for my car (projectors)

    The LED highs are super bright, but obviously not used when other drivers are around, I find the 6000k a good colour for showing up the line markings etc.
     
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    Thanks for the response guys. Ones who think 6000k is for the wank factor, I already have 6000k hid's in my wife's car (factory projector with washers and self levelling mechanism) and they are brighter than the 4300k they replaced.
    Thanks for the heads up bud, will stay away from this mob then and I am definitely not one of the people who would just install super bright HID's to blind others and that is the point of asking the question on the forum.
    Yeah I touch based with them as well and they do have a kit for VF but were much more expensive than Night Vision. I will try the phillips halogen bulbs. All I want is more light on dark roads for night driving.
     
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    Hey mate, have you considered these -> http://www.ae-international.com.au/...m-headlight-hid-conversion-kit-canbus-h7-35w/ I have these in 4300k for the reasons mentioned above. They are made for the VF and completely seal with dust cap and no canbus error. for high beams I went with LEDs as i dont do much highway driving at night. my high beams are more for flash dickheads on our roads (and occassionally being nice as well)

    EDIT: if u were going down the road of bulbs I highly recommend the Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited. I had them in my previous car, a Swift, and they were fantastic. Can't comment on how they go in a VF, as when i got my VF I went straight to the above HID kit.
     
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    Thanks bud, this does look interesting. Did you do the install yourself? Was it an easy installation?
     
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    Yeah man super easy. High beams and parkers you just have to open the bonnet and its all accessible. Low Beams, you will have to go through the wheel arch. So a couple of torx screws and u can fold the wheel arch liner back slightly and you will be able to stick you hand up and reach the back of the low beams. Removing the front wheels altogether if the car is lowered will make like easier but I managed without removing them. Although my car is stock height with factory 20s

    This link here mate, will help a lot -> https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/the-ultimate-bulb-replacement-guide.242681/. But of course feel free to ask
     
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    Thanks again, will give this a go. Will probably just change the low beam, parkers and number plate lights to start with. Did you change the parkers and the number plates as well?
     
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    Sure did mate. I've done plates, parkers and interior with these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KONIK-T1...529608&hash=item19ea38f02f:g:Ev0AAOSwOMdZTbgG But they look sold out. I have also used these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KONIK-K0...067729&hash=item1a2bc29d8c:g:HuEAAOSwR29ZHn1o in another mates VF and just as good. Both ware canbus and error free. Little expensive compared to your "ebay specials" but I've had them on the car coming up to 4 months and no problems so far.
     
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    Thanks for all your help buddy!! I am pretty comfortable changing the lights (replaced all exterior and interior on my wife's accord euro a few years back), so just time to get hands dirty again :)
     
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    on ya mate, have fun :D
     
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    6000k IS for wank factor. The light is WHITER or bluer, but won't give you the same penetration with all else being equal. Reflection of road signs and wet roads is horrific, which means that your eyes focus on the reflection of the light right in front of your vehicle, rather than what's further down the road (you don't have a choice in this, it happens naturally - your eyes adjust accordingly).

    I get the feeling these people saying that they've never been flashed and that higher colour temperatures are better have never done much driving in the country. It quickly becomes a reality when you spend 2+ hours driving in the dark on country roads every day.

    I've done the research. A quick google search will tell you everything you need to know about colour temperatures and the legalities of aftermarket lights.
     
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    Only comment I'll make is that the "throw" (distance of light emitted from front of car) is significantly less with LED's than it is with HID's.

    In a projector headlight, I'd fit HID's over LED any day of the week.
     
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    I can attest to this, the throw on the LED is much shorter than the HID would be, but I am not sure on HID for high beams as they take time to warm up!

    My 50w LED's produce a lot of instant light and the throw is enough to light up what needs lighting up.

    In all honesty after putting the HID's in there is really no need for high beams anyway!

    I have been tempted to go HID for fog lights and highbeams but that would be purely for wank factor, the HID's cut through fog like no-ones business anyway.
     
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    These are my new favorite LED's to retro fit to cars for the highbeams:
    https://aerpro.com/h7led6k

    Instant light and paired with 6000K HID's in the low beams (projector housing only please people) makes a great combination.
    Have done a few cars with them now, I do recommend leaving the dust caps off as these still do generate a lot of heat and depending on your headlight housing - they may stick out a good inch or so.

    I also recommend these for t10 parker lights:
    https://aerpro.com/t10sm9w
     
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    I have that combination in my Mazda 6, very, very good vision no excessive glare and haven't been flashed by oncoming cars so I assume it is working well!
     
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    Yeah I've done about 15 different cars with that combo, everyone seems to be pretty damn happy with it.

    I've even bit the bullet and ordered the MK2 projector headlights for my G6 so I can run the same setup.
     

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