HID headlights and fog lights for VE SS Z series

[steveyea]

HI guys,

Just a quick question.

Got a 2012 SS Sedan. I want to change the headlights and fog lights to HID.

Previous car i had, I went to AutoJoy in Granville.

Was wondering what other places in Sydney can people recommend to buy and fit HID's? and prices, brands.

Thanks guys,

 

[BIG_JV]

hey man,

For my SV6 I bought a commodore plug and play HID kit off ebay. These ones have the ballasts for the HID integrated into the dust cover cap, so installing them is just like changing a normal globe, but you replace the dust cap with the HID one. They are easy enough to DIY with no drilling, mounting etc. they took about half an hour or so to install. I have had them now for over a year and they work really well so far, Im pretty happy.

take a look:
Head Lights: Holden VE Commodore Headlight H7 HID KIT SV6 SS SSV HSV | eBay

Foggies: 6000K HID KIT FOR Holden VE Series 2 II Commodore FOG Lights SV6 SS SSV Berlina | eBay

 

[kingyinperth]

Are these things legal..ie were they standard fitment in some high spec VE models(if any?)..haven't researched them much but the legality of them may be questionable??

 

[helmotbros]

Not legal

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[ducker85]

Are these things legal..ie were they standard fitment in some high spec VE models(if any?)..haven't researched them much but the legality of them may be questionable??

HIDs were never 'standard' in any VE models

 

[kingyinperth]

cheers guys,thought as much...just another cop magnet mod then lol

 

[steveyea]

Hi big jv!

Had a look and that's what I'm after! Plug and play. Awesome! So no problems at all?

Regards.

 

[Benboy]

Steveyea...

For YOUR information in regard to the legality of modifications to your lights. A lot of information but if you are keen to avoid attention from authorities then it is in your best interest:

Motor vehicles have been required to comply with Australian Design Rules (ADR's) for lighting since October 1991. ADR 13 mandates the number and position of lamp assemblies, ADR 46 prescribes the photometric requirements of the lamp itself and ADR 51 is the standard for filament bulbs.

ADR 51 accepts ECE regulation 37 as an alternative standard for filament bulbs and prescribes the dimensional and photometric requirements for filament bulbs (including headlamps). This ensures inter-changeability and correct functioning when installed in a complying lamp unit.

All complying bulbs sold in Australia would be marked with the "E" mark and possibly the words "Suitable for European Use". The packaging may also indicate compliance with ADR 51 or ECE 37.

When a replacement complying bulb of the correct type (for example H4 45/60 Watts) for a complying headlamp is fitted to that assembly, the light emitted will be within the spectral requirements for white light. This will not be in breach of Section 63 to Schedule 1 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management- Vehicle Safety and Standards) Regulation 1999.
Although these lamps are a standard fitment to many newer vehicles, a "blue" complying lamp can be fitted to a lamp assembly on a vehicle that was not originally fitted with these bulbs.

It is important to note that ADR 51 limits the power of various bulb types, and bulbs of a similar style but higher power rating will not comply and should not be used. For example, the common H4 bulb that has a complying rating of 45/60 watts, is available in much higher rating of 45/100 watts. The higher powered bulbs produce more glare and the resulting light pattern would not comply with the ADR.

Although regulations do not require drivers of pre-1991 vehicles to fit complying bulbs, consumers should be careful when fitting non-complying "blue" light bulbs to pre-ADR vehicles, as the resulting light spectrum may fall outside the standard for white light (that is, the blue frequencies may predominate).

If a Licenced Examiner suspects that the light output from a headlight appears blue, the examiner should take appropriate action based on the following summary tables:

For vehicles manufactured on or after 1 October 1991
• Bulb must be marked.
• Bulb must be the correct wattage.

For vehicles manufactured prior to 1 October 1991
• Bulb does not have to be marked.
• Bulb may be alternative higher wattage.
• Bulb must not show obvious blue light (when viewed directly ahead).

Licenced Examiners Action:
If, during the course of an inspection, Licenced Examiners have cause to inspect vehicles modified by changing the original lighting componentry assemblies, they are to ensure that individual vehicles comply with the previously mentioned details.

Modifications of this type which do not comply with the above requirements are to be rejected immediately.

 

[cewing]

I believe you are able to retrofit them to your car, but the lights must be autoleveling and must have those wanky windscreen wipers you see on saabs+volvos.

 

[BIG_JV]

Hey Steve,

Yeah they are all good, look great, no troubles at all. The only things that I can think of (I'm really nit-picking) that are a bit tricky with regards to installation are:

-You have to aim the head light beam a bit lower to reduce glare to other drivers due to the increased projecting nature of the HIDs. This is detailed in the instructions, but it basically involves turning the white plastic screw on top of each head lamp a few turns, to lower the angle of the beam to where it would normally be with halogens. You don't need to do this if your car has projector Headlamps (with the lens like an SS-V)

-Screwing the new dust cover ballast cap on for the first time is a bit difficult coz it has a thick rubber seal and feels tight (but it is supposed to because its a seal)

-You might have to remove the coolant fill tube to make space to get your hand in to change the globe (pull it up and push it back when done)

You also might want to pick up a pair of LED parker lights to put in as well coz it looks silly with yellow parkers and white HIDS.

With regards to legality issues, I have had no issues with the police, been pulled up many times at night for RBT, even been complimented by the officer once for having a nice car

I went for the 6000k white HIDS, not the 8000k which are very blue, I adjusted the beams not to glare other drivers so I don't see why there should be any issues. it seems that every third car has white headlights nowadays.