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I need to get a towball for my vf ssv but I want one that is completely hidden when assembly is removed even the plug. Does anybody know how much a setup like this would cost or best place to get it installed? Not fussed if it's not heavy duty. Cheers. For a sedan.
 

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The only way you will likely achieve such appearance is to completely remove the tow bar assembly after each use.
 

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I'm happy to remove the tongue that bolts on I just don't want anything sticking out surely there is something short enough to be under the bumper completely
 

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Its certainly possible to fabricate something I have done a few specials in my day you need to find a towbar manufacturer who can design and build to your specifications and also be able to certify the work as per engineering and adr standards....as for the wiring yrs. ago Toyota had flat ribbon system that hung out of the boot and just layed in side when not in use
 

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I reckon what the OP is after is a hitch where the tongue and ball can be removed when not towing. Also you can get the lighting plug installed on flat length of cable so it hangs out the boot when ur towing and hides in the boot under the carpet when you're not.
Any towbar place can install this for you mate, it's a pretty standard setup. You just have to decide if you want the 1600KG or 2100KG rated hitch.
 

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I reckon what the OP is after is a hitch where the tongue and ball can be removed when not towing. Also you can get the lighting plug installed on flat length of cable so it hangs out the boot when ur towing and hides in the boot under the carpet when you're not.
Any towbar place can install this for you mate, it's a pretty standard setup. You just have to decide if you want the 1600KG or 2100KG rated hitch.
Yeah but he wants the tube where the hitch slots into to be far shorter than whats currently available so that when the hitch is removed its completely hidden. Sounds like a custom job unless you backyarded it.
 

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Yeah but he wants the tube where the hitch slots into to be far shorter than whats currently available so that when the hitch is removed its completely hidden. Sounds like a custom job unless you backyarded it.
definatly a custom job.
Haymanreese have it for fords. never holden.
Too help hide it.
You can 2-pak it to match your bumper.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions guys yeah Ive had the slightly hidden groove on my last 2 holdens but you can still see it which i hate for some reason it ruins the rear end of the car. Flat cable in the boot is the go but definitely do not want to see anything at the bottom of the bumper. Will happily climb under car to bolt it on and off.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions guys yeah Ive had the slightly hidden groove on my last 2 holdens but you can still see it which i hate for some reason it ruins the rear end of the car. Flat cable in the boot is the go but definitely do not want to see anything at the bottom of the bumper. Will happily climb under car to bolt it on and off.
Did you give up on the idea?
 

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No it's still in the planning stage.
Are you trolling?

I've got a SSV Redline and want to do something with a 50mm vertical output under the car. Then you can install a 50mm right angle piece that comes out from underneath. I had this on a previous car and it was great.

But no one makes this so it would need to get welded up..

Cheers
 

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Are you trolling?
Trewman hasn't been on this site since 2015 so what I'm saying is it's unlikely you'll get an answer from him.

It's a very old thread and the first thing you do is check to see if the forum member is still active and if not try a private message and hope his email hasn't changed.




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Despite the old thread, thought I’d add the following:

The BMW X1 has a clever the tow bar and plug that is under the car and hidden behind the plastic rear bumper. The “U” style tow ball attaches and and locks into the bar itself while the plug simply swings down when in use. As I said, it’s clever but i doubt it’s a 2100kg arrangement though that wouldn’t be an issue for many.

So for those curious as to the arrangement, go to a BMW dealer and have a look at how they set up the crazy priced tow bar on a 5 year old X1. Maybe some tow bar manufacturer can take the BMW arrangement and modify it or combine it with the Hayman Reece arrangement to fit our VF’s... it would sure be a nicer solution.
 

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Despite the old thread, thought I’d add the following:

The BMW X1 has a clever the tow bar and plug that is under the car and hidden behind the plastic rear bumper. The “U” style tow ball attaches and and locks into the bar itself while the plug simply swings down when in use. As I said, it’s clever but i doubt it’s a 2100kg arrangement though that wouldn’t be an issue for many.

So for those curious as to the arrangement, go to a BMW dealer and have a look at how they set up the crazy priced tow bar on a 5 year old X1. Maybe some tow bar manufacturer can take the BMW arrangement and modify it or combine it with the Hayman Reece arrangement to fit our VF’s... it would sure be a nicer solution.
Mate at work ordered one of these on his C class, then promptly sold his caravan!
Pretty neat

 

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i have them on my current and previous BMW's, but have never seen them made for Commodore's
 

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Trewman hasn't been on this site since 2015 so what I'm saying is it's unlikely you'll get an answer from him.

It's a very old thread and the first thing you do is check to see if the forum member is still active and if not try a private message and hope his email hasn't changed.
Yeah fair enough, but I figured if he doesn't reply or isn't around, then what's the harm. Reviving an old thread doesn't really hurt anyone. Except annoying the admins. Plus I might get 2020 responses from other people. I'm not much into forums as you can see :)

Back to the topic though, I've owned cars with this before and they were great. I've seen some commodore towbars where the 50mm tongue doesn't come out of the bumper horizontally have some sort of vertical arrangement to go around the bumper to some degree. One example is here.

Here are a bunch of photos from a previous install, I think they explain it pretty well so I won't bother describing them.

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It was a different life, but the principles are the same.

Cheers
 

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Yeah fair enough, but I figured if he doesn't reply or isn't around, then what's the harm. Reviving an old thread doesn't really hurt anyone. Except annoying the admins. Plus I might get 2020 responses from other people. I'm not much into forums as you can see :)
I always think reviving old threads it a good idea as it keeps the info compressed and easier to follow if something new is added, so I have no problem with you opening this up, I just thought you're unlikely to get an answer from the OP.

I can understand why owners look for an alternative to the way Holden punches the towbar out through the rear bar, it looks atrocious.



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This is the BMW tow bar arrangement i was referencing. Very simple to install and remove the tow ball and you wouldn't know the car could tow when the tow ball isn;t installed.
Surely it's possible to mod a Holden based bar using parts pinched from a BMW wreck. Probably not cost effective for most but if it's important, something to consider.

PS: i like the Merc arrangement but that looks more complicated to retrofit.
 

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I see the 2018+ Commodores have this sort of hidden fallace style arrangement. I'm after a 50mm output though to be honest as I want to use a bike rack and other accessories that use the 50mm standard. I'm not going to be towing lots, just family stuff and occasionally a box trailer.
 

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I see the 2018+ Commodores have this sort of hidden fallace style arrangement. I'm after a 50mm output though to be honest as I want to use a bike rack and other accessories that use the 50mm standard. I'm not going to be towing lots, just family stuff and occasionally a box trailer.
hey guys just leave your ball and bar out there in their face if it doesn't obscure your plate its very cheap insurance from bum bangers
 
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