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Holden comes out of the closet

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I did say that road safety was an arguable exception. So I already granted you your point. ;)
 
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We have come a long way but there are still uneducated fools like zero tolerance who for some reason believe that being gay it un natural and wrong. Not the case at all and people like old mate zero tolerance need to be educated or atleast do a bit of ******* research before they spout this crap on a public forum.
First of all, who the **** do you think you are to call me an uneducated fool because my beliefs and values differ from yours?
Yes, I find homosexuality vile and abhorrent and firmly believe that it is NOT what nature intended, and it wouldn't matter if I was a year 10 dropout or I had multiple masters degrees because no amount of education (or should I say brainwashing) will change my beliefs.
 

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no amount of education (or should I say brainwashing) will change my beliefs.

Teacher: Two + Two = Four
zero_tolerance: No it's not, it's eleventy one, stop trying to brainwash me!
 

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Yes, I find homosexuality vile and abhorrent and firmly believe that it is NOT what nature intended, and it wouldn't matter if I was a year 10 dropout or I had multiple masters degrees because no amount of education (or should I say brainwashing) will change my beliefs.

^this part of your post is the answer to your question below.

First of all, who the **** do you think you are to call me an uneducated fool because my beliefs and values differ from yours?

And I'm glad to hear you won't be buying anymore Holden's you should buy something VERY second hand because anything from the 21st century won't look good on you.

I was planning on buying a brand new Colorado Z71 in a couple of years, but bugger Holden, after this little performance from them I will now be buying a used one instead, with the added bonus of saving on depreciation. A couple of family members were looking at a new Astra. That won't be happening now. Nice work Holden, that's at least 3 sales you have lost because of your PC agenda pushing, at a time when you need as many customers as you can get.]

The guy who isn't going to let his family buy a Holden because they don't hate gay people is saying we're the ones doing the brainwashing LOL

This just keeps getting funnier.
 
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Zeke you may know your history but I think the way you are looking at this LGBT deal is just plain overblown and paranoid.

There was once a time when gay was though of as a disease that needed to be cured and the fact is that is not the case.

They are not trying to be a brainwashing PC Hitler type regime I believe what they are trying to do is have a right to be treated like any other human being. We have come a long way but there are still uneducated fools like zero tolerance who for some reason believe that being gay it un natural and wrong. Not the case at all and people like old mate zero tolerance need to be educated or atleast do a bit of ******* research before they spout this crap on a public forum.

I believe everyone has the right to be proud of who they are that's all. Don't you agree?
We always treated others as a human and to have pride in themselves.
But the thing is with the PC/SJW is they can not discriminate, they believe to discriminate is a sin and they try to force this on all, it's a socialist satanic trick in how they work to brainwash people over the years.
The words have changed there meaning over the years so if one is under 50 40yo or less their comprehension is some what different because of the brainwashing of schools and media has twisted things around.
When it comes to gays as it's called now, fact is no such word was around and it only came about in the 90's I think not to mention it's a foolish word that goes no where really and this is the problem, simplistic words that describe are so such lacking of or are so vague.
We had discernment and it had a scale from 1 to 10 say and it starts with a fairy then a pansy a ok poof to a f wit poof and then to the type of poof in jail that want's to have his way with all he can. now under PC you can't discriminate between any of the just mentioned, because you don't have that right, the SJW are dipsticks who in force this crap like a mongrel dog because they are socialist who believes all people are equal mantra every one is the lowest denominator no one is better than another ? you can not discriminate, now to discriminate means you can discern, it's got to do with intelligence, it's not foolish and it's not a sin and the socialist PC/SJW don't like anyone having there own opinions and certainly not voice it or defend such in any way, they don't value such at all and I ask why is it that such people think the way that they do, one major thing is they don't like being offended and they hold that in the utmost regard. little dipsticks cry baby's metro boys, but never men, I don't call such men at all because they don't cut the grade, a lot must of never had a healthy father relationship and brought up as a mummy's boy, oh reality is a shock and to hard, they have to run off and go lick their wounded ego or come out with some illogical childish spac attack, you are offending me!!!
Things offend me in my job day in day out and it comes with the job of being a contractor and I have the responsibility to call the shots, I don't care if I offend others feelings if they can't do their job correctly, but I know that in government jobs and such it's totally different that they work under and as such PCness becomes a big thing in there lives, because they don't have to think for themselves, they are all like mushrooms. and I do know people in such that say it's true because they have worked out in the real world before.
 

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The guy who isn't going to let his family buy a Holden because they don't hate gay people is saying we're the ones doing the brainwashing LOL

This just keeps getting funnier.

Stop twisting my words.
I said I wouldn't buy another Holden because they are a car company whose sole purpose is to produce and sell cars and it is not their place whatsoever to be pushing social issues and minority agendas into the faces of their customers, many of whom like myself are strongly opposed to the agenda they are trying to push.
I have spent hundreds of thousands of my hard earned money with this company over the years, so I should have the right to object and voice my disgust.
 
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I respectfully disagree, the posts about religion on previous pages contained simple facts that are backed by evidence.

The post about the Jedi mind trick was a reference to your claim that your thoughts are being controlled. And that such claims are simply a work of fiction. It also seems to have had a delayed but significant effect on your sentence structure, a relief for all that read this thread.

I dislike left wing pinko, politically correct, sticky nosed, social justice warrior busy bodies just as much as the next free thinking individual. In my personal experience they are extremely vocal minorities that have very little in common with the average person. My strategy for dealing with them is to ignore them. I go about living my life without their influence on a day to day basis. I have yet to come across a law that has stopped me from speaking my mind or doing what I believe to be reasonable. I don't see squads of brown shirts walking the streets kicking in doors and beating people senseless. There are no secret thought police taking people away in the middle of the night because they don't like sexual congress between two people of the same sex. Almost all of the people I interact with on a daily basis are reasonable people that hold opinions of their own and allow me to do the same. The media has a habit of sensationalising fringe elements, perhaps you need to stop relying on it so much. Ignore them and they will go away.

I hold fairly contentious positions (for a lot of people) on a number of subjects, religion, privacy, road safety and sexuality to name but a few. However this does not in anyway effect my employment prospects, personal freedom (arguable exception, road safety), or happiness.

In a nutshell I live my life by my own rules, and because they are almost all based on logic and reason, I run into very little trouble.

In short, don't be a ****. Unless of course someone is a **** to you first. Then by all means be a ****, but make sure you are better at it than they are!
Thing is you have an opinion that all will be fine and don't read into what the governments are up to, there intentions are leading to enslave us under PC socialism.

No one have ever cared about two gays living together or came knocking on their door telling them to stop, it's insane that people think that some how anyone was ever doing this in Australia, but as to gay marriage that's a another thing in it's self, any schmuck should be able to get a partnership, but don't call it a marriage because it's not truly a marriage at all in fact, but the thing is drongo morons and bastards are insisting on calling it a marriage and people who know what the word truly represents don't want it bastardised, because it's highly provocatively offensive not to mention truly degrading and dragging the true worth of it all down into the gutter, just as PC socialism does with everything bastardising, it's blaspheme satanic in fact = working to be leading people astray.
And some uneducated dipstick atheist PC/SJW starts ranting on the not fair kola bear trip, you must this and that follow our PC Socialist to the letter of the Law or you will come under relentless cunning satanic attacks claiming all sorts of bullshit deceptions.
A man and a woman can have a partnership as well and that's what most truly are nowadays, because they think ok I want to pack up and leave at any tick of the clock, **** whoever they want ect ect it's not a marriage even if they think it is, because it's not the true definition.
I am not saying what they can do, I don't give a **** ! but don't bastardise the true comprehension of Marriage is a grave Sin not to mention just a **** act like punching someone in the face for nothing, or the **** head does not comprehend the gravity of the facts.
Just because someone does not support PC line in actual fact does not make them stupid, but this is what the PC mob claim all the time.

Hay bro have a good look into how many people get the sack, even uni professor's because they challenged the PC Nazi's line and how such demand insist people get the sack instantly over what they may claim was said, be it miss leadingly intended or what ever, if it sticks they have claimed another scalp. no it's orchestrated and relentless, never do they say, do you mean ? to clarify what the intention truly was, no no no !
No I am not under any delusion of what there intent is all about.
 

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I'm not going to bother reading a wall of text but I can assure you discrimination has nothing to do with intelligence!

People are totally allowed to form their own opinions it is when you start trying to force that opinion onto others that you cross a line.

There are a fair few groups/parts of society I disagree with but as long as they don't directly effect how I live/my lifestyle than that is fine with me. Live and let live I say, just don't try and change the way I do things because then I'll give as good as I get.

Been gay or homosexual has been proven to not be a disease/illness etc. If you don't like that fact that is fine and I have no issue with that but if you can't get past that point and it's your only argument then that is fairly pathetic.
 

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To discriminate is to comprehend the difference of, fact is if one can not discriminate then that person is foolish.
I know that one car is a Holden Commodore and the other is a Ford Falcon, I can even go as far as pointing out what model they are and every difference of each V6 6 cyl and all the V8's, it's all discriminating knowledge.
Distinguish, recognize and understand the difference of.
Discriminate between right and wrong.

Someone who is homosexual may be just as you say, and I know of some that are really good blokes and get on well with them, but not all. but that could be the same said about anyone.

I have a stupid mate down the road and his brother was a homosexual and was loopy as, I would not let him mind my dog and he died of AIDS he was all right at times, but f ing hell some of the crap he would do and say was just so embarrassing going out to a restaurant with him as he would start yelling out bagging some other gay because of what he had on, or carry on about some nonsense and we would be thinking f--k we are going to be kicked out or some prick will come up wanting to start a fight, so I had to say don't bring him along with you and my wife does not want to listen to that ****.
Another bloke was rooting a goat once at a party in full view of everyone and then he started bashing people up who bagged him for it, he claimed there was nothing wrong with doing it.
So it is understandable that some people get upset about people as such, because they don't know what to make of it and you have to say no no no Joe Blow is ok, he is not an moronic idiot type that one may have an impression off.
Another bloke I know likes to run about his out pack pub in the nick at times or at a party when he is pissed but he is not gay he just has a thing about it haha, but one day he saw a mate pissing from our side of the fence across the driveway and up into a two story bedroom window and you should of seen his face as he ran around to tell next door what he had just seen, they just dismissed it as one of his jokes.
 
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