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holden is gonna withdraw from the only market there in. and do waht?
Fact is, GM has already withdrawn from many markets around the globe.

Not sure how many markets a company can give up before it becomes irrelevant but it’s not inconceivable that GM will retire the Holden brand from this market. They’ve tried badge engineering in the past and that wasn’t a huge success. They’ve tried ‘premium’ brands as @Forg mentioned, and that wasn’t a huge success.

When their corvette (one car pony) just doesn’t sell in the numbers the want, GM will withdraw completely from down under and history books will document how an ideological government threw the baby out with the bath water and lost auto manufacturing in this country.
 

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I had a game of Golf with the local Holden Dealer last year and he said GMH were looking for a 3rd party to take over the Spares network in Oz/NZ,not a good sign.All the injecting molding masters have been sold to a local Co. to produce plastic bits for the VE/VF.
They still haven't publicly guaranteed the future of Holden in Aust. so until they do anything can happen.
Chev. branded vehicles imported from Asia and North America is probably the way forward once the PSA/Opel deal expires.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/holden-commodore-and-astra-safe-psa-120403/
 

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if they pack up hopefully the IP is for sale cheap a few years down the track. government can buy it and have a socialist OEM ;)
 

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if they pack up hopefully the IP is for sale cheap a few years down the track. government can buy it and have a socialist OEM ;)
Where will they build them?
 

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if they pack up hopefully the IP is for sale cheap a few years down the track. government can buy it and have a socialist OEM ;)
Car manufacturers have been known to go belly up and sell off assets but fate usually results in something less than ideal for preserving IP.

As an example, when Delorain died, I mean the manufacturer not the person by that name as he went to jail for cocaine smuggling, the body moulds were sold off to a scrap merchant. They were then on-sold to be used to retain fish (farming?) nets (so the story goes they were dumped in the river).

So nobody, not the British government in the Delorain case, nobody, cared in preserving manufacturing history. And the Delorain case is by far not uncommon.

When, if, Holden shut down, the bigger problem will not be IP. The bigger problem will be how long we can continue to get access to the GM’s service system servers so we can fully maintain out vehicles. Doubt we’d have access after 10 years or access will be ridiculously priced to obsolete these vehicles.
 

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Fact is, GM has already withdrawn from many markets around the globe.

Not sure how many markets a company can give up before it becomes irrelevant but it’s not inconceivable that GM will retire the Holden brand from this market. They’ve tried badge engineering in the past and that wasn’t a huge success. They’ve tried ‘premium’ brands as @Forg mentioned, and that wasn’t a huge success.

When their corvette (one car pony) just doesn’t sell in the numbers the want, GM will withdraw completely from down under and history books will document how an ideological government threw the baby out with the bath water and lost auto manufacturing in this country.
I wish people would stop blaming the government. GM is shutting down ops all over the place and eventually only manufacture in China and the US. Our piss weak market is chicken feed on a world scale, but if more people had bought commies instead of multiple imports, we might still have had a car industry. The government just stopped throwing public money away on an ungrateful US based company.
 

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^ manufacturing is of strategic importance to any country which is why governments around the word support manufacturing industries through countless measures from tax subsidies to outright giving monies away.

The sad bit, and one that the government is 100% responsible for, is that they did not recognised such strategic importance and behave appropriately. Ideology got in the way of strategically important manufacturing from a national security perspective and we lost a critical industry.

It won’t surprise me if crude refining is also shut down in this country where we end up having to ship out low value low taxed commodity products and buy back a high value items that does nothing but screw with balance sheet. It will be just like the case where we don’t make steel any more.

History shows that we were world leaders in many fields, from aviation, rocketry, computer science and many more. Heck, we even allowed nuclear bombs to be detonated on our soil yet didn’t gain needed skills and the products of that endeavour to be able to independently protect our shores.

Our governments should be 100% blamed for the mess we are in and by default we the people should blame ourselves for not seeing this coming and demanding more from the idiots in charge.

Now off to learn Cantonese Korean, Japanese or whatever because in my life time, Australia will be repossessed by those our government sold out to :(
 

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"Heck, we even allowed nuclear bombs to be detonated on our soil yet didn’t gain needed skills and the products of that endeavour to be able to independently protect our shores."

And that, my dear Mr Skylarking, is a fact that probably 90% of people living in Australia (note.. I did not write Australians) are completely unaware of.
When I was a kid in outback Qld at the time, my parents knew that a nuclear test was usually followed by a dust storm.
 
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