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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by bdc74, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. bdc74

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    Hi all. I have looked everywhere I can think of without luck.

    I was curious to know if I could put a series 2 IQ system in to a Series 1 SSV Wagon and if so any ideas on costs and where to get it done?

    Cheers heaps,

    Brett
     
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    Maybe holden can do it ? i dono but i am sure intrested, i shall be keeping an eye on this thread :D
     
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    i agree ... but i have the sv6 with the standard dash ... im not holding my breath
     
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    The short answer is no. It would be far too involved and probably end up being cheaper to sell the car and buy a Series II. Just to give you an idea, you can't even fit satnav to a Series II after it's left the factory because there is no way of linking it all up.

    I priced it for several customers when the Series II came out and IIRC it cam out around the $9-10k mark just for parts.
     
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    when you say far too involved - can you explain a bit better here? Are head units's sizes PHYSICALLY different between the two models? Seems to me that from S1 to S2 there usually is not that much change done internally and if you took an IQ from the same equipment levelled car -ie SSV Sportwagon then there would not be too much difference?

    I am only hypothesising here though!
     
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    As far as I can remember, a fair bit of the dash has to be changed as the displays are different. Head unit alone is over $1500. Then you would need to work out which wiring needs to be changed, which other bits the IQ system needs added to function properly, and how/if it can all be linked together while retaining functionality of the car's original equipment. I think it's all linked to the dash so that may well need to be changed.

    The climate control or air con control panel is also part of the stereo fascia and Series II is different to Series I. I can't remember if the heater box is different but many things are. The module that controls the climate or air con is different in the Series II aswell.

    Unfortunately many of the changes made to the VE for Series II were interior tweaks.
     
  7. pjdm1980

    pjdm1980 Shut up Jr I'm thinkin!

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    I've got a mate who still work in development at Fishermans bend and he told me that the IQ is a Volkswagen unit.
     
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    hey mate my ve berlina 07 is getting thee iq in a week or 2 once paid off i only got 2 weeks left its on special at jhp $1997 fully installed plus they do payments plan once paid off u can take it in im getting it hooked up to a dvd player inside the glove box. go in goolge serach jhp. they change the in middle part to fit it its 2200 once special is over. my dads got a calias with a dvd plus i really like the fact u can have ur contacts and call logs streaming music from phone built in hard drive i could have gotten the calais series one 1 headunit for 1500 but for an extra 500 i get everything
     
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    Your not really going to like my post.

    There is another mob that does the exact same thing as jhp for $1500

    Even worse news,
    I got mine for $420 from a wrecker, and all of the trim bits for another $200 (including piano black shifter insert, surrounds, and a lot of the bits that jhp do not supply with their kit)

    Once you have all the required bits, you then need to program the vin number in the main unit using an EEPROM programmer, and swap over a couple of wires on the plugs (the plugs are the same, just the wires are in different locations)

    The problem with the jhp kit is that they use a non sat nav unit. So if you want sat nav later, you pretty much have to get a whole new unit, as the non sat nav units are missing the tms and sat nav boards, and they cannot be retro fitted because the secondary board is missing the connect to connect these boards.

    The only reason why I haven't fitted my iq system up is because I have factory series I gps, which I use quite often, and my iq unit is from an omega. (hence the reason why I am now looking for an iq unit from a calaisv or ssv with the nav boards fitted)
     
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  10. davey g-force

    davey g-force I'm a sceptic...

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    Wait... so Matti, are you saying that you've now cracked how to install a Series II SSV/CalaisV IQ into a Series I?
     
  11. salute the ute

    salute the ute DRIVING IS A PASSION

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    Hey Matti,

    I have been looking on carmodder and havnt seen any updates on the IQ for a few weeks now, have you been able to figure out exactly how to change the red creen to blue ?
     
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    Loaded Dice .... Lets roll.

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    Why anyone would pay that amount of money for flakey bluetooth and shite maps is beyond me :/
     
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    Yeah, I agree with Loaded Dice here.
    As I said earlier, I haven't fitted the Omega IQ unit because there is really very little benefit (for me anyway) at the moment.

    Considering the cost of all the trim pieces you need to fit the IQ unit (nicely, I.E. if you get an SV6, SS, SSV model), you need the piano black shift bits, steering wheel buttons, headlamp switch.
    You also need a new cage, cage surround, lower surround, upper surround, spears, and all those depend on what look you want to go for. (I.E. Sport, Stock, or HSV).
    The trim pieces can almost exceed the cost of the IQ unit itself.
    Plus on top of all this, a lot of wreckers have absolutely no clue as to what parts are needed / should be included with an IQ kit.
    (I made many phone calls to the wrecker that sold me the IQ unit, as he thought he could just sell me the screen, and not the main unit, HVAC controls, or anything else).

    Considering a Series I colour HVAC unit doesnt need the trim pieces, and that I have seen a couple now go for $600 with the HVAC module, and programmed, then right now these seem the easiest upgrade.

    I still need to work out some of the advanced wiring stuff (like Aux Video Inputs, and the glove box / centre console USB connector wiring), as I dont have any wiring connectors to play with at the moment.

    I have the wiring information for getting the unit to work, with sound and SW LAN, but there is a lot of extra stuff (Like wiring for the HSV EDI module),
    which I would like to get my head around.

    To get this information, I just need to subscribe to the ACDelco SI General Motors Service Repair Manual Information, which costs $20US for three days.
    I haven't done this yet because I want to be able to rip as much information as possible from the site, and I want to have as much time to do this as possible.

    When I have some time, I will have a look at the advanced wiring stuff. (I need access to the USB port to really be able to do anything fun with this unit).

    So just to summarise,
    Most of the Basic wiring has been worked out (Speakers, Power, SWLan),
    VIN programming via EEPROM has been worked out. (No need for Tech2 !)
    Startup Logos has not been worked out (Doesn't appear to be in the main unit EEPROM, possibly in the fascia though)
    Blue Red Colour has not been worked out (USB port may be the key to this).
    Adding Sat-Nav to a non IQ unit has been kinda worked out (and is a PITA to do, easier to buy a Sat Nav unit)
    Adding Flash storage to an Omega unit has been kinda worked out (and is a PITA to do, easier just to upgrade the complete IQ unit)
    HSV EDI is a seperate module (located where the bluetooth module is for Series I models), and requires some MAJOR wiring to get working.
    VIM is unknown at this point.

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  14. Fekason

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    Side Query?

    I am interested in your remark that a Satnav cannot be retro-fitted to a Series II VE after it leaves the factory.

    When I was actually picking up my MY11 VE SV6, the dealer made a big play trying to get me to fit Satnav. The salesman said that if I acepted (cost $800), they could fit it in a matter of minutes while I waited. I declined.

    However, if what you say is correct, then just maybe my vehicle is in fact fitted with the hardware, and just needs activating through software. Do you think that might be the case, and if so, how do I check to see if the hardware is there?

    Thanks.
     
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    The problem with fitting Sat Nav to a non IQ unit is a couple of things,

    1) It is missing the hardware (A daughter board to be exact, which plugs in to the screen processor board).
    2) On my Omega unit, it is missing the connector for this daughter board to plug in. (I think the connector exists for non Omega models, as this board also contains the flash memory chip for ripping CDs).

    If the dealer has said that they can fit Sat-Nav in a matter of minutes, then it may be possible that Sat-Nav has been optioned, and they have just pulled the maps software SD card out from the main unit.
    The maps software SD card is located on the RHS of the main unit, just below the wiring connectors.
    To get access to this, you would need to drop the lower trim on the drivers side around the centre console trim.

    The other thing about fitting sat nav to a non sat nav IQ car, you would need to fit the Sat Nav antenna, and the traffic management antenna to the vehicle for the Sat Nav functions to work. (Though in your case, these may already be fitted).
     
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    I have fitted the S2 E3 IQ system to my S1 SSV along with the POD gauges and E3 cluster and love it... anyone who cant see the benefits then hasnt used the IQ over a S1 setup.. it is night and day between the 2.... i agree the maps/satnav is not as good as say a tomtom.. but compared to my S1 SSV with no satnav i love it.. the appearance is so much better as well

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    as for the EDI i have it all wired up just need to finish linking it up and it will function as well.. also changed my steering wheel to a E3 HSV and EDI controls
     
  17. davey g-force

    davey g-force I'm a sceptic...

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    ^^ I think you and Zerone need to talk. :)
     
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    They do haha
     
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    Yeah, DoubleDip is the man when it comes to IQ stuff.
    He has helped me out with quite a lot with this stuff, and I unfortunately havent been able to contribute much in return.
    Until I get up to speed with the wiring, or get my hands on a Sat-Nav IQ unit, progress from me will be a bit slow.
    Time for me has been very difficult, been organising new hardware for work, and trying to set up / get used to a new laptop (With the number of iOS apps I am writing now, I bought a retina Macbook pro, and I am having a very hard time trying to hold back the vomit from being forced to use OSX on a daily basis).

    Hopefully soon I will have some time to play around again.
     
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    davey g-force I'm a sceptic...

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    ^^ lol I don't fully understand what you're talking about, but I'll take your word for it. :)

    So doubledip, do you have full functionality of your IQ? Do you do the conversion for $? Where are you located? Is it currently possible to get a system with satnav, VIM and reverse camera all operational?

    So many questions hahaha..

    *EDIT* just found your website
    http://www.ultimateconversionwiring.com.au/
    Cool...
     

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