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Holden no more: 600 jobs go, 10 yr support.

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Big Red VF-SII Go-kart, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. figjam

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    No Commodore, no Buick. Are Insignias still being built, and headed for the chop also ?
    Then PSA won't have to pay GM the licensing fee for the privilege of building a car nobody wants.
     
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    Regarding future parts availability, wouldn't there be a big enough cult following v8 comnodores that hoepfully would be aftermarket parts still avaliable for them even after 10 years?

    Like how you could still buy many bits and pieces of various parts (aftermarket) for old 90s JDM imports (R3x skylines, S1x slivas, Supras etc etc) even today.
     
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    The issue is that only around 60% of aftermarket parts are equal or better than the original factory parts. The market is flooded with parts for VR's and VS' but the quality in general is well below that of the originally fitted parts.
     
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    This. I wish/hope there as some way GM could give back to our government the Holden brand. Not to be used again commercially, but in a way to protect its historical significance to Australia. For GM to at least say "We know this means something to your nation and we respect that."
     
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    Sad day,they certainly ripped the bandaid off quick.
    I guess the parts network is up for sale again.
    They were a highly respected name in NZ,i can't believe they just walked away and threw 60+ years of goodwill away in the process.
     
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    I really didn't expect the Holden name to disappear.

    I thought they'd retire the Commodore name (as Ford did with Falcon) and carry on with whatever they then did.

    Makes my life a bit easier though.

    I wasn't really sure which way to jump for my next vehicle. Now I'll run current till it drops dead and buy an EV.

    Oh, and **** you General Motors.
     
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    So how many of them are your grabbing to add to your collection ?
     
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    Why ? They haven't been built for nearly 2 1/2 years already.
     
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    GM don't give a fat rat's about that.
     
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    It is very sad.
    re what prices will do. Who knows. If I had that crystal ball it be on an island somewhere, not working.

    I just hope people don't go stupid.
    I'm looking for a nice unmolested VN as a daily. Good ones are commanding $4k here in Adelaide with low Kms.
    Probably double that now...
     
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    why didn't they just sell off the brand if they were planning to close it? That Gupta guy at one stage wanted to buy it and open the factory and build the cars as a niche market. it could of worked. HSV has and will be doing it.

    GM has no interest in Australia or RHD. Thats their loss, they are too stupid.

    The government has step in and do something, they need to nationalise Holden, just like Qantas. What is Australia without its car - Holden, without its airline-Qantas, without its shoes - RM Williams

    What will happen to the Holden name? is GM going to keep it? what about all the archival information/papers/documents/videos that are locked away in the Holden vault. I know at Elizabeth there is a small team archiving stuff to go to the National Motor Museum, but what happens now?

    We lost heaps of historic stuff when Chrysler Australia left, lets not repeat it again.
     
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    sell the "holden" brand to psa and let them smash more insignias into aus as commodores :D

    selling the "holden" brand will help gm recover some of what is expected be in excess of 1.6 billion to exit the local market so you might see it sold at some stage especially if they can put into the sale contract that the purchaser provides the "10 years" of service/parts for existing holdens.
     
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    Today's greeny hipster youth will not be interested in old commodores. I don't see VFs going up in value. They will keep depreciating slowly just like any ordinary car. Majority of population has no interest.
    This was demonstrated by all NEW VFs sitting in the dealerships for 2 years after the production...
    I ll certainly be selling mine when the warranty is out...
    Time to move on..
     
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    Once my ssv breaks it is going into the shed for 30 years.
     
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    A government nationalising a private company ? Destroys all of the underlying fundamentals of capitalism. We aren't a socialist country.....yet.

    Also, you do realise that Qantas is an ASX listed entity with tradeable shares ? The only "nationalisation" of that business is its marketing strategy.
     
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    Hi guys to answer some of the questions here, I am just as shocked and saddened as everyone else, I spoke to my uncle who is a sales manager at Holden. He pretty much said this means your car is now going to be worth a lot more than ever before. On top of that, he said that dealerships are being compensated in some way (no sure how). He followed to say that for at least 10 years from now they will support us..... what happens after that is another story.

    BTW he did mention that one of the biggest things that affected sales in Australia was the whole right hand drive, compared to left hand drive and the conversion needed in that process so you can probably go and blame the government here.

    Hope everyone is going well.
     
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    Keen to see his $50k trade in offer on my VE.

    And blame the govt for RHD ? LOL. Every other car manufacturer can deal with RHD. Why so hard for the arsehats at GM.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Insignia is dead, though ... admittedly I've not read it, but given Commodore and Buick Royale (with Cheese) are gone I suspect that also means no more Insignia.

    The American manufacturers all seem to have trouble upper-managementing their way out of wet paper bags. They have no vision for the future, and the thing they do Really Well at the moment is also the most profitable (huge thirsty commercial vehicles intended for private usage) so that's what they're focusing on ... and markets outside the US don't have enough of a hankering for those things to bother selling overseas. They're doing the exact opposite of diversifying; they're shoving all their eggs in what's currently the biggest basket at home.

    My better-half & I are in a stage of our lives where we can afford to keep a depreciating (non-)asset ... and between you & me, there's still nothing that on-average interests the both of us for under 3-figures that I'd feel comfortable buying. Any wagon with the same or better performance tends to have questionable long-term reliability, or costs a bucketload more & hence would cost us more in the long-term regardless of the VF's market value.

    Plus I haven't been dealer servicing, so ours has been maintained better than the average VF. :)
     
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    Sweden changed from driving on the left side to driving on the right side back in 1967. Sweden also had a motor vehicle manufacture industry curtesy of Saab and Volvo.

    It took a while but we know what happened to Saab manufacturing and who knows what will happen to Volvo going forward.

    So which side of the road one drives on is not an indicator of whether a motor car manufacturer will be successful. Success is all up to management and the board to run the company well by producing a product the public wants in droves.

    In Holden case, it’s probably the GM shackles that hamstrung the company which assisted in the demise and it really had nothing to do with RHD/LHD unless you’re one to subscribe to excuses :eek:
     
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    LOL
     

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