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Discussion in 'Spray Painting and Panel Beating' started by Andrew1994, Aug 17, 2011.
You guys are so mean, I think I may actually be getting along with a few of you >.>
i lol'd at a few of ur comments, but ur trolling this thread is getting annoying
he's basically asking for it
Get all the advise you can from anyone you can, practice all you can.
What's the worst that could happen? You learn from the experience and if you fail... well people like me can buy a real cheap car to wreck for parts!!!!! Sorry couldn't help that one! No offence.
What i should say is: what's the worst that can happen, you fail you learn, you sand it all back and do it again and again untill you get it right....
Now I've made amends well enough to cover for the my smartarse earlier paragraph.
Ummmm...Spraypainting is easy? Like I've been probably a...25% contributor on the backyard respray of like...2 cars. First one was a camry. Slight colour change only half dismantled, second was a vn with an aero kit...Which is an ongoing project, but like...in my experience...Its not hard at all, its just extreeeemely time consuming.
Read all you can practice as much as you need and then just get into it...
With the right tools and a lot of patience a MINT paint job is totally achievable by... anyone with half a brain.
Let the haters hate, with their faded ass stock colours, too broke to pay someone to paint it too scared to try it themselves.
1. No-one said spraypainting isnt easy. It is - if you know what you are doing. Preparation is the hard part. Your 25% input in spraying 2 cars hardly makes you an expert though.
2. All I have been trying to do is point out to the OP that he knows less than he thinks he does, and he needs to accept that before he wastes his money messing it up.
Its not hard to do, there is a heap of info on this forum on what he needs to do. Hes been provided links and stuff, and a step by step of things he needs to do before he paints the car.
3. I am neither too broke to pay someone, nor am I scared to paint it myself. I choose to paint myself, because I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I am finished. In fact, I will happily place my paint next to anyone elses in the forum and be proud of the quality. And far from a faded ass stock colour, mine is a very nice custom pearl which you will never see on any other car.
Andrew has taken the attitude that we are all out to get him, which isnt the case. Commo may have made a few smartarse remarks, hey just ignore them if they bother you. That will happen in any thread you post on this forum, you have to learn to sort the wheat from the chaff. I get flamed daily, its not worth stressing over.
Andrew, read the threads that Ari666 posted, you will learn a lot. Then, if you are still unclear on anything, come back and ask specific, informed questions, and someone will give you an answer. If you are lucky, it will be Ari, he is a legend
You've already had an answer to your post in fact. You asked if the paint you provided the link for was a good choice, and not one person has said yes. Thats the answer to the question isnt it... no? Now, ask what kind of paint would be better, and some instructions on the best way to spray it. Its not rocket science. But first, read the links you have already been provided with.
If you do this, then you will eventually get a real nice paint job. If you just get peeved because you arent getting the answers you want, you either arent reading the answers properly, or you arent willing to accept any advice. You came in asking for advice, no use doing that if you arent going to listen.
Good luck with your paint job, I mean that. If you need help, ask nicely, dont make out like you already know it all, and someone will help.
I'm done with this thread until something changes. Its going nowhere..
ive done a prevoc for spraypainting and i dont think i would want to tackle a whole car.
Longest steps is the sanding and bogging... the spraying (providing you have the rights tools and an even hand) is the easy part.
But you gotta think about the little annoying things between a good job and **** job.. like taking all the seals and rubbers off the car (such as the door frames) so it looks even all the way through not have a red car originally and you got purple now and someone lifts the seal up for a little surprise.
If you have a 1.3m gun you can do both types of paint. A non skilled hand will still make it look blotchy.
You also need to think about where you going to do this? 1 method for a homemade spray booth is a single LUG. hose the ground down.. Put drop sheets up all over the shop (like in Dexter) and then you got a booth..
Or you hire a booth.
But then you need the gun, compressor, paint, safety equipment, bog, 30-40 sheets of sandpaper, primer, turps, top coat. so a whole car would prob cost around $2k alone. Not to mention it would take a novice twice as long.
Sheese i just wouldnt bother.. spraying a kit though i would.. as long as i got a pro to tint the paint for me.
started the project yet?
Bellicose you certainly like your bright colours.
I occasionally work with ken from colortech helping him when i have spare time. I have personally sprayed 3 cars and a wb 1 tonner from go to whoa, bear in mind i'm no expert and keep asking questions each time i do a car.... end story, the 1 tonner took me 5 weeks of 4+ hours per day. only 2.5 hours was actual spraying of the ute. The rest was me being anal retentive and i still didn't get a result i'd be happy to show people. So end story, hours upon hours of painstaking prep and very easy to see things you've missed and are unhappy with after it's all done.
The 1 tonner was the last car i've done, I'm about to rebuild my VH SS from scratch and I've decided this time, I'm saving up and paying someone for that headache cause i'll never be happy if i do it myself, i dont do it for a living and can't hope to achieve the results i've seen from the couple of decent panel shops near me.
OP i hope you dont take this the wrong way, but if you dont mind living with every imperfection and stuff up you've missed untill it's too late, then go ahead and give it a go. Just remember, you have to look at it every day and drive it. If seeing faults etc annoy you, then I'd go and save your pennies to have it done for you.
Yes it is achievable to get a great result, you might have a knack for it but you will be comparing your car eventually to those that have been done by people who do this line of work 5 day's a week for god know's how many years. Practice makes perfect and there's always new things to learn and get better at.
Jeez some of the other posts on this thread are over the top! OP have a go of it and see how you go.
Sprayed my two side panels On the weekend and came up good
Won't let me upload a photo keeps coming up with and ! Mark nexted to the photo anyone know why ? And thanks for all the help everyone I just don't get why people have to try and put other people down and try turn them of spraying a car, yeah I'm a first time sprayer an I said I have sprayed a gun befor and I did make out like I new what I was doing when i didn't know much cause befor I sprayed my side panels I've only sprayed my new front bumper So I havnt sprayed much at all. But I'm happy inposted this thread because I've got alot of help.
andrew it's good to hear you learnt something out of this, every one has helped even if it seemed like they were being mean (It's just their way of helping).
The ! mark means that the file is to large to upload, open it in photo shop or something and save it as a jpeg, then edit your file size.
pics or it didnt happen
or open in ms paint and save as a jpeg, after you shrink it down to a reasaonable size. very easy to do it that way
All these blokes saying its not hard to spray, cause a pro painted something of yours and it had orange peel. Probably cause you paid him shot money, if you are prepared to pay good money you'll get a good job, go figure.
I have had so many blokes come into my shop and hire out my booth thinking like the rest of yous, I've read all this ****, and prepped ir for 20+ hours, jump in the booth and go to paint, 80% of the time it looks streaky and has lines in it from the primer, plus so many other random mistakes.
There is a reason why people like me (qualified spraypainters) do a 3 yr apprenticeship.
All I can say, if all you guys want a half decent job, either pay someone good money to do it. Or read all the information you can (it is good info, it's the lack of experience and practice that fks it up) and practice on some panels, do a few different panels, even then it's different to painting a hole car and getting an even finish.
I do apologize for the rambling and bad punctuation/spelling, it's 2:45 and I'm tired.
Thanks everyone I know i I've got a bit pissed of when some of you guys Said **** I didn't want to herebut it did help me with things like not going a completely differed colour I've sprayed the bumper and front side panels a Similar colour just a bit more blue in it looks alot better and I'll change the pic size and everything when I get home from work this Arvo.
Thanks for all the help
Every one of us on this forum who has worked on their cars had to start somewhere and most of us didn't go to tech or do an apprenticeship. That didn't stop us from learning and being better each time we did something. That includes body and paintwork. (In fact, there's a lot of big-noters on the forum who heap crap on others who say they want to try to do something themselves, but pay to get the same work done on their own cars.)
Even if the car doesn't come out as well as the OP would like, he will have the satisfaction of achieving something by his own efforts and the next time he does body and paint, it will probably be better than this time. That's the beauty of doing it yourself and I wouldn't do it any other way myself.
Now that there is a better attitude mate. Keep us informed on how it goes.
Well i'm a "big noter" but then i DO do EVERYTHING on my own cars.
Outline of the thread for people who don't want to read 4 pages of well umm s#ite.
- He wants to spray his car.
- He wants a few pointers.
- He obviously isn't a spraypainter by trade, as he wouldn't be asking about it here.
- It's his car at the end of the day - he can use lipstick if he wants to.
Is it all that dramatic that people seem to think?
Oh dear, I thought I had made my point clear but apparently not.
My point was there are guys on the forum who give themselves wraps about their cars and their knowledge but rubbish others who want to know how to do things themselves, but the big noters pay professionals to get work done because they can't or won't try to do it themselves.
That doesn't sound like I meant you, does it?
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