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How can i tell the difference between a 225kw, 235kw and a 245kw v8 engine?

Discussion in 'VY Holden Commodore (2002 - 2004)' started by freefallin, Nov 22, 2012.

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    freefallin

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    Im trying to buy a 245kw 5.7 v8 engine. There are a couple of places that sell used engines but the problem is they just call them v8 commodore or caprice engine! Since there are 3 types of v8 engines, how can i tell the difference?

    Also, is the vy ss engine the same as a vy (lets say Calais) 5.7 v8 245kw engine? Would it fit in an ecotec engine bay?
     
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    aussieakito

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    serial number?
     
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    freefallin

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    what serial number?
     
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    pjdm1980

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    I'm not a 100% sure but I'd say most of the power differences would be in the tunes and not the motors themselves.



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    Yip, itl be just the tune and i think the hsv had better exhaust incl headers
     
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    No difference in the motors. Power increase was achieved through a combination of tune and exhaust (depending on model).
    Cheers
     
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    freefallin

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    Oh so a commodore or caprice 2000-2004 v8 engine blocks are all the same no matter in which model car, including ss?
     
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    Also you will need the V8 K frame if replacing a V6 as they have different engine mounting arrangements.
     
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    an LS1 is an LS1.. not like the Holden V8s where you need a degree in Holden V8s to know them all
     
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    didnt get you there
     
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    what else will i need to replace/change? Transmission? BCM??
     
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    Go for a later model LS1 2002+ as you should pick up the LS6 block make sure casting number is: 12561168
     
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    no did you
     
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    Why don't you just buy a V8 powered car, surely even in the UAE's it would work out about the same if not a bit cheaper and you'd have a factory V8?
     
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    cz im swapping my v6 and saying a difference of only about $300
     
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    So anyone know what else i need to change to make the transition?
     
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    LS1-GEN111 in a VT/VU--225kw @5200 rpm
    LS1-GEN111 in a VY------225kw @5200 rpm
    ----------------------------- 235kw @5200rpm--high performance dual exhaust
    LS1-GEN111 in a VZ------235kw @5600rpm-SS CREWMAN
    ----------------------------- 250kw @5600rpm-SS UTE

    These figures taken from original GMH sales brochures
     
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    I think that's about it.
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