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How long did your brakes last ?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Ron Burgundy, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. Ron Burgundy

    Ron Burgundy Well-Known Member

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    Just curious what life is everyone getting out of their brake pads.

    I just clocked 30 000km and the front pads are down to 4-5mm and should be replaced soon according to holden.

    I thought they should last a lot longer than that.

    The pads are factory hp1000 compound...
    Same as stock brembo brake pads...

    What are you getting out of your brakes ?
     
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    I’ve just gone 60k and last service was told brakes are fine and should get at least another 20 thousand. I don’t drive them hard though
     
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    My front pad just finished on my redline , literally, at 58500Km . Front left is on bare metal damaging the disk. The rears are about to go. I got the wagon which has the boot full of spare parts and tools from work.

    I am replacing all rotors and pads next week.

    On my last service at 45k , Holden told me the pads need replacing and rotors needed machining and the quote was close to 1000 if I remember well. I told them don’t worry.

    I just bought four DBA T3 slotted for 380 a pair and bendix ultimate pad. I will have a go replacing it myself , just need to buy a dial indicator to measure runout.
     
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    Are they for real??

    Sure that wasn't a quote for new rotors rather than machining?
     
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    I'm hard on brakes. So mine wear quickly. My Redline has 79,600 on the clock and has worn out 3 sets of fronts (nearly 4) and 2 rears. Still on my first set of T3's but.
     
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    Around 60k on A1RM/T3 in an auto using engine braking all the time. So maybe half that if I drove in auto. Daniel Souza, I'm now on Ultimates and new T3's and I'd like to say don't believe everything you read on the internet, but in regards to Bendix Ultimate's and brake dust, it's all true! Invest in good wheel cleaner and elbow grease.
     
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    Different car, I know, but our 2015 auto Captiva, with 85k on the clock, still has all the original pads. They shed no dust and are quiet in operation. I have no idea what the factory compound is but it certainly gives decent performance and excellent durability.
     
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    Generally get around 20,000 from a set fronts, rear maybe 15,000 a set on my old vs. Just depends how you drive it.
     
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    Okay. I ll most likely get another 5 to 10 thousand out of them so thats not too bad.

    I am unsure if I should machine the rotors or just throw on a new set of pads.
    The rotors dont have any deep grooves...only minor lip...like 1/2 mm.

    Also have a new set of DBA T3 so I dont care what happens to the stock rotors if I just throw on a new set of pads without machining...
     
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    Machine them Ron. Your brakes will work far better.
     
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    I hate the idea of machining rotors. The rotor is a massive heat sink. Even a small skim from the surface of each side is a lot of material being removed so the rotor isn’t able to dissipate heat as well.

    If they’re bad enough to need machining, then they should be replaced imo. If there’s no shudder and they’re within wear limits, just replace the pads.
     
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    Yeah I'm a bit the same. I also hate too much pedal travel. I just replace the rotors rather than machining. But, it's costly... If the pads are the same compound, just replacing pads can work ok. Problem is, if the new pads are different, they will never bed to a smooth surface that was bedded to a different compound. The minor reduction in heat sink performance after a machine, is less of an issue from a braking perspective than pads that won't bight.
     
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    Depends on where you live - hilly or flat

    How you drive - hard or easy

    The type of pad material

    I haven't change a set of pads in a car in over a decade but just taking them for a run to the baker's to buy scones doesn't cause much wear.

    I'd be happy enough with 30k


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    Ron, Pads start at around 10mm typically, and if you have 4-5mm left, I'm guessing you'll clock up 50,000kms before they have to be done. It's ok to have 1mm of pad when you change them. and I usually replace the rotors at the same time as pads, but I'm not ripping through pads like a few here have quoted. I got 60,000 out of the E3s first set of pads and rotors before changing them out.
     
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    Clearly I DON'T drive hard enough....

    If the rotors aren't badly grooved than I wouldn't machine bearing in mind that it will take a bit longer to bed in the new pads on a used rotor but no big deal. If it's grooved badly enough to need machining than new rotors are probably a better option.
     
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    If the scones are stale enough you can use them for brake pads. Much cheaper than the real thing and they smell nice under heavy braking.
     
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    Changing compounds etc is no issue whatsoever. The new pads will wear to the pattern of the rotor not long after initial break in providing full surface contact.
     
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    machining is more based on the pad material as every pad leaves a coating of itself on the disk if u then swap pads u change the material left on the disk which may not suit the new pad, machining takes the old pad material off the disk and squares it up so the new pads can bed in to them properly, if u are using the same pad again then it is not needed unless the disk surface has issues
     
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    Geeez, my Redline is up to 71,000km and my pads are still original, still have meat left on them. Clearly I've been driving like my father.
     

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