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how much to tune a ssv manual?

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by RoaringSky, May 22, 2013.

  1. WazzaV8

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    Really, if he gets Extractors and Cats he will get a Check Engine Light, NO HE WON'T, I didn't so why would he? pacemaker Headers come with the O2 sensor extension lead so why would he get a Check Engine Light, again I DIDN'T WHEN I DID MINE.

    As for RUNNING LEAN, isn't that what the fuel management computer and MAF sensors are for, to detect airflow (by detecting vibrations on them 4 little wires inside the pipe work ) and adjust the fuel system to match. If not hat does MAF stand for, just a guess I think it MAY be Mass Air Flow.
     
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    I got it done by Eddy at Active Automotive Performance Centre
    https://www.facebook.com/activeautomotive
    It's the number one place in Perth, if you think huge power gains from a tune your dreaming, a tune is over rated but I guess they are making big bucks from people who don't know any better, don't get me wrong, if you go to the motorplex they are handy because even 18rwhp will improve your times.
    Amazed that even if you produce evidence some people don't believe it

    There are no stupid questions only stupid answers from stupid people.

    We live in an era of smart phones and stupid people.
     
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    Are you for real, do you know what a tune does, read my MAF sensor comment and you might google it and find out what this sensor actually does. WOULDN'T BE MUCH FASTER THAN STOCK ha ha ha ha, no really, did you look at my DYNO sheet I posted, do you think a stock SsV is 264rwkw? No it wasn't running lean. What were your DYNO figures before and after a tune. Below is a video of mine before the tune but with Ectractors, Cats, OTR yep running like a pig ha ha ah

    WAZZA VE SSV.mp4 - YouTube
     
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    Errm, yeah no. Sorry, LSX motors are renowned for how easy they are to get power out of.

    Here's a vid for reference

    VE SSV
    - Full 2.5" Exhaust
    - OTR intake
    - Full custom tune

    = 268rwkw

    and that is not a high number, it's a pretty standard number for those types of mods.

    I can't imagine where anyone would pay close to $1000 for a full custom tune only to get another 18rwhp. It's not all about numbers, but it is what it is...

     
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    In relation to the original post, I'm in Sydney, having my car Dyno tuned Tuesday, paying $800. Had a stock dyno run on 31/3/13, made 208rwkw (2012 SS manual). Ive recently added a Pacie 3" cat back, fitting a Dus OTR Sunday then the tune Tuesday. I will post results.

    Interestingly, my mate's car (bought new exactly the same time as mine 6 months ago made 215rwkw on a stock power run yesterday. same dyno). When we got them the cars have felt completely different to drive from day 1 (engine, manual boxes and clutches)......The ole production variances at work!
     
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    If you did the same mods as mine, headers hiflows and otr you will make 270-280rwkw, the variation between your mates and yours could be as simple as tyres/pressure as well as ambient air temperature differences on the different days. Interesting thing is Chris, who works at Active Performance owns the same model SS as mine and has the same mods and his figures were the same as mine to the decimal point.i forget what he said he did the quarter in, it might have been 12.7 on street tyres.
     
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    Wazza, there is no need for me to explain my "rationale" You clearly know everything, so wont listen to people who (according to you) dont know squat.
     
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    That's right, don't explain how changing am exhaust system will "pop" your engine or how taking in cool air from from in front of your radiator will do the same, hard to explain when you don't know right. I'm talking from experience I'VE had,The fact I DID THOSE MODS TO MY CAR and DROVE IT FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE I HAD A TUNE, not what I think or what I was told by a bloke whose mates sisters boyfriends did something. I did the tune because im on a higher income in the mining industry and could afford to blow $1000. I would not recommend it unless you have $1000 to blow wothout blinking because the results are minimal and its unneccassary as you can do them mods and retain O2 and MAF sensors. I've only been able to determine that your don't know squat by what your have said.

    POP, damn my engine popped, must have been caused by them new tyre eh? That makes sense too.
     
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    And what experience is that Wazza?? Did you watch someone using a dyno?

    If I was you, I would give up while you are behind.
     
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    LMAO! Let's all listen to Wazza because he earns a higher income in the mining industry. What does that have to do with anything!
    To the OP, go and see a few shops and have a chat with what you want from the car. DO NOT TALK NUMBERS! See which shop you feel most comfortable with and then go from there.
     
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    I agree with what AirStrike says re going to a few shops, and asking questions. Seems like you have plenty of options in the west side. And, dont get wrapped up in dyno numbers, its more to do with how it drives for you.
    Keep us informed how it goes.
     
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    I can't believe wazza's car with his mods can make 356 rwhp untuned.
    What I believe is it's been maf tuned to this number and he's paid an extra grand to go maf less to gain an extra 18 horses.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    That I could believe.
     
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    Theres A LOT more to tuning than the 18hp shift in the peak power @ 6200rpm under WOT load.
    Thats 1 of 10000000...... conditions the car will run under

    Having said that, a motor wont POP from headers, cats and an otr.
    A factory tune has so many safety nets in it...
     
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    No, never had a tune until the MAFless, why is it hard to believe, they are around 290 stock, headers/cats add around 15% and oTR around 20rwhp. Yes, go ask around, plenty of shops will want your $1000 so they will give you good unbiased advice.MY ADVICE is get your full exhaust, OTR retaining MAF, drive around for 6 months before deciding on a tune just to see of you really need it and then you will know if you just pissed a grand up against the wall (or donated to the tuners super fund)
     
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    So Eddie is full of it what he wrote above your dyno sheet on his FB page?

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1576433493.294875.249403893492&type=1&theater
     
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    And there we have the answer. LMFAO.
     
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    What did he write, that the Mafless tune gained 18rwhp? Isn't that what I've said all along?
    Unless your referring to the quote MAF tune to Mafless, yes all commodores come out with a factory MAF tune, I've never had one since Actives and I bought the car NEW.


    Don't take dumb advice off dumb people.
     
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    People don't usually refer to the stock tune as a MAF tune.

    Regardless of whether your figures are accurate, if you have spent the money on extractors, cats, OTR and exhaust you might as well make it run efficiently as you can otherwise why waste the couple of grand for the parts.

    Yeah you will get gains out of the increased intake and exhaust flow but the stock parameters around the MAF wouldn't know what to do with the extra intake flow and similarly the o2 sensors in the exhaust wouldn't know how to handle the outgoing without being tuned to deal with it.

    Do it once do it properly.
     

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