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Discussion in 'Holden Commodore How-To's' started by fuzzy2308, Sep 24, 2009.

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    I have just realised that this is the same for 1990 VQ caprice,my owners handbook states that it should be a X but I have a Z,I was stumped for a few hours till I found this thread
     
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    I know this thread is old, but this information will prove useful for years to come. I deal with a stolen cars page, and use this exact page all the time. I will also add info here, so would be grateful that when I do, that you can update the post. Cheers. If I don't get a reply (if you are no longer an active member), I'll copy the post and carry on with what you started.
    Michael, Stolen Cars In Darwin/FB.
     
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    Some extra info:
    V=Model Year Code.
    V=1997.
    W=1998.
    ?=1999 Change to X=1999
    ?=2000 Change to Y=2000
    ?=2001 Change to 1=2001
    2=2002

    Help with this VIN:6H8VXK69 A 2L877048. A is the engine code. You need to add A as a L36 152kW Ecotec V6
     
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    COMMODORE VIN CHECKER by Michael Holliday (VB to ZB)
    OK, so the original post was made by "fuzzy2308" who hasn't been on here since 2015, so I don't expect his post to be updated. So here is a modified VIN list for Commodores (VB to ZB etc.)
    Multiple info sourced, including from:
    http://www.vlturbo.com/vin_decoders/ (has issues with VZ decoding, just take out the V)
    https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/holden_identification (EJ to EH/HK to WB)
    https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/
    Note: Besides the three letters that are not allowed in the VIN itself (I, O and Q), the letters U and Z and the digit 0 are not used for the model year code. The year code is the model year for the vehicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number
    Built plate year (and thus rego year) of Sept through to Dec will have the model year after. Eg A car built in Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec in 2017 (and registered as a 2017 built car) will be a 2018 model (ZB Commodore with a year code of J).
    I'm no VIN expert nor a Commodore owner, but a deal with stolen cars and use this (and other) VIN checkers every day. Hope it helps you.

    VB - VC - VH – VK - VL (1978-1988) 14 DIGIT VIN


    EG: 8X19KFZ944190K, =1986 VK Commodore Calais sedan with 3.3L EFI built in New Zealand.

    DIGIT:
    1: Division, 2: Degree of luxury, 3&4: Body Style, 5: Engine Code, 6: Model Year, 7&8: Assembly Plant, 9-13: Serial number, 14: Model series.

    Digit 1: Manufacturer
    8 - GMH.

    Digit 2: series/degree of luxury
    K= SL/Executive
    L= Berlina
    X=Calais
    S=SS

    Digit 3&4: body
    19: Sedan
    69: Sedan
    37: Coupe
    35: Wagon
    70: Panel Van
    80: Utility.

    Digit 5: engine
    N=1.9ltr 4 cyl (VC 58kW Starfire)
    D= 2.85 6 cyl (VB 64kW Red/VC 76kW blue)
    L= 3.3 EST
    K= 3.3 EFI
    A?=4.2L 253 CI (VB 87kW Red/VC 100kW)
    A?=4.2L 253CI dual exhaust (VB 96kW Red/VC 115kW)
    T=5.0L 308CI (115/126kW VC)
    R?= (on a ’84 VH)
    For VL:
    6=RB30E 3.0 EFI (non turbo)
    7=RB20E 2.0 EFI (non turbo)
    8=RB30ET 3.0 EFI Turbo.
    J=5.0L V8
    G=4.9L V8 (on VK HDT Brock SS)
    P=4.9L V8 (180kW HSV Walkinshaw)

    Digit 6: year
    H:1978, J:79, K:80, A:81, B:82, C:83, D:84, E:85, F:86, G:87, H:88

    Digit 7&8: Assembly Plant
    H1 thru to H4: Brisbane
    H5 thru to H9 Sydney
    J1 to J9: Melbourne
    L1 thru to L5: Adelaide
    Z1 to Z9=New Zealand

    Digits 9-13: 5 digit serial number

    Digit 14: Model Series Code
    Q: HQ 7/71
    J: HJ 10/74
    X:HX 7/76
    Z:HZ 10/77
    B:WB 4/80
    B:VB
    C=VC
    H=VH
    K=VK
    L=VL

    VN – VP – VQ – VR – VS - VT - VX - VU – WH (1988-2002) 17 digit VIN

    EG: 6H8VNX19UJL389929, 1988 VN Commodore Calais 5L inj V8 sedan
    Digit 1 to 3: (World Manufacturers Identification)
    6H8: General Motors Holden

    Digit 4&5: Model
    VN: 88-91
    VQ: VQ Statesman (1990-99)
    VP: 91-93
    VG: ute
    VR: 93-95
    VS: 95-97
    VT: 97-2000
    VU: VU Model
    VX: 2000-02
    WH: Statesman (1999-2006)

    Digit 6: Luxury code
    K: Executive, S, SS
    L: Berlina (HDT Aero/HSV/HSV Senator/CSV)
    X: Calais
    S: SS
    Y:Statesman
    Z:Caprice

    Digit 7&8: Body Style
    Body Style Code:
    19: Sedan (VN – VP – VQ – VR – VS - WH)
    69: Sedan (VT- VX – VU – WH)
    35: Wagon
    80: Ute

    Digit 9: Engine Code:
    H= 3.8L Ecotec V6 (eg. 147kW VN-VT)
    A= 3.8L Ecotec V6 L36 (eg. 152kW VT-VX)
    S= 3.8L Supercharged V6
    U=5000 Injection V8
    M=5000 Injection V8
    ?L= 2.0 Family II (VR)
    L= 5.7L V8 VR and VS 215i only
    X=2.6 Dual Ram (L6),
    F=5.7L Gen III V8
    N=5.7L (195kW HSV VT)

    Digit 10: Year
    J=88, K=89, L=90, M=91, N=92, P=93, R=94, S=95, T=96, V=97, W=98, X=99, Y=2000, 1=2001, 2=2002

    Digit 11: Assembly Plant
    L= Adelaide (Elizabeth Plant)

    Digit 12 to 17: Serial build number
    The last 6 digits are your build number (123456 Sequential Production Serial Number)

    VY - VZ - WK - WL -VE -VF - WM (2002-2017)

    17 Digit VIN with Restraint Code and Check code

    Digit 1-3: World Manufacturer Identifier.
    6=Oceania.
    G=Australia.
    1=Holden.

    Digit 4: Model
    Y=VY 2002-04
    Z=VZ 2004-07
    E=VE 2006-13
    F=VF 2013-17
    K= Long wheel base Statesman/Caprice WK 2003
    L = Long wheel base Statesman/Caprice WL 2004/5
    M= Long wheel base Statesman/Caprice WM 2006-2017
    N= Long wheel base Caprice WN

    Digit 5: Luxury Level
    K=Executive, SV6 (VE), SV8, SS (Omega VE) (VE SS Thunder), SV6000 (VZ 6L HSV)
    L=Berlina (HSV
    X=Calais
    Z=Caprice
    Y=Statesman
    P=SSV
    C=SS
    B=SV6 (VF Commodore)
    J=Calais V (VF)
    E=SS V Redline (VF)
    F=HSV Maloo (VF)
    A=International

    Digit 6: Body Style Code
    0= cab chassis 1 tonne ute
    1=2 door coupe
    3= 4 door ute (Crewman '02-'07)
    4= ute
    5=4 door sedan.
    8=Wagon.

    Digit 7: Restraint Code
    1=Active seat belts.
    2=Active belts with driver and passenger airbags.
    3=Active belts with driver airbag.
    4=Active belts with driver, passenger and side airbags.
    5=? (on a 2007 VE HSV GTS)
    E=?Active belts with load limiters. Driver, passenger and side airbags.
    (on a VE ute/VF sedan)

    Digit 8: Engine Code
    A = 3.8L ecotec
    B=Alloytec 3.6L V6 175kW dual fuel LY7 (VZ) 2004-2007
    7=Alloytec 190 3.6L V6 195kW LY7 (VZ) 2004-2007
    R = Supercharged Ecotec (L67)
    5=3.0L V6 SIDI LF1 190kW 2010
    3=3.6L V6 210kW LLT (VE SV6) 2009-2011
    F=5.7L Gen III V8
    S=5.7L (CV8 Monaro)
    2=6.0L V8 LS2 (VE SS Thunder ute/supercharged SSV VE Walkinshaw) Possibly L76/L77
    U=6.0L LS2 307kW (off a VE GTS)
    H=6.0L V8 L98 (also L76/L77 are 6.0L)(2006-2010) 270kW VE
    W=6.2L V8 LS3 (2015-2017)
    P=6.2L Supercharged V8 (VF HSV)

    Digit 9: Security check code.

    Digit 10: Model year code.
    2=2002, 3=2003, 4=2004, 5=2005, 6=2006, 7=2007, 8=2008, 9=2009, A=2010, B=2011, C=2012, D=2013, E=2014, F=2015, G=2016, H=2017

    Digit 11: Plant build code.
    L=Elizabeth.

    Digit 12 to 17: Serial Number
    The last six numbers are your Sequential production number.

    ZB (2018 -> )
    17 Digit VIN with Restraint Code and Check code
    Digit 1-3: World Manufacturer Identifier.
    W0=West Germany
    V=Vauxhall

    Digit 4: Model
    Z=ZB

    Digit 5: Luxury Level
    M=LT
    S=RS/RS-V
    X=VXR
    T=Calais/Calais-V


    Digit 6: Body Style Code
    6=5 door liftback
    8=4 door sportwagon

    Digit 7: Restraint Code

    E=?Active belts with load limiters front/rear. Driver, passenger, side and curtain airbags. Head airbag for 1st and 2nd rows.

    Digit 8: Engine Code
    C=2L turbo petrol (FWD 191kW)
    D=3.6L petrol (All Wheel Drive 235kW)

    Digit 9: Security check code.

    Digit 10: Model year code.
    J=2018, K=2019, L=2020, M=2021, N=2022, P=2023, R=2024, S=2025, T=2026, V=2027, W=2028, X=2029, Y=2030, 1=2031…..

    Digit 11: Plant build code.
    1=?

    Digit 12 to 17: Serial Number
    The last six numbers are your Sequential production number.
     
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    Important note.
    When you get done by police for not having your car registered you can now be very certain that it is registered.

    The above details go into a national register of motor vehicles before its even been rolled out of the factory door. The VIN number is the vehicles registration number. The VIN number remains on the national register even after its been crushed up into a block.

    So when police tell you they have run your car through their computer and that its not registered just say something like "what do you mean its not registered? The VIN number goes on to a national register as soon as its made, before its even sold and it must be registered because it came up on your computer to know that its not registered as you claim, didn't it?

    The police will then say something like "but you have not paid the registration fee." Reply to this by saying something like, ah, now i know what the problem is, it is registered but I've just not paid money to someone, thanks for reminding me, see you later."

    If they then try to turn that stop into some other issue such as they want to search your car then that is unlawful detention which is a tort so you can then sue for damages.

    In order to search your car they must have reasonable suspicion that the car has or is about to be used in the commission of a crime, and or, they believe that something that may be stolen is in your vehicle, or that a person they are seeking is in the vehicle.

    Your proof that they did not have any grounds for them to have 'reasonable suspicion' is that they pulled you up and dealt with the rego issue first and only then they tried to turn it into something else.

    This is the situation in WA so the laws relating to this kind of thing are likely to be different for the other states so you will need to check out any difference.

    If you don't know your rights you don't have any rights so go and learn them and enforce them.
    go to aussie speeding fines and know your rights group.











    This post has been very helpful.
     
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    You've gone off on a bit of a tangent here. The meaning "registered" does not just apply to one thing on a car, or even solely cars (you may have heard of cash registers?) Having a VIN means that the VIN has been "registered", ie. "entered or recorded on an official list or directory", that list being a list of cars made. This is different to the registration that you pay, which becomes "entered or recorded on an official list or directory", of which the list would be for cars that are allowed to drive on the road, this is known as a "license plate registration", for which I'm sure as you would know from that "Aussie Speeding Fines" place you mentioned. So to make the connection as the VIN registration to be the same as License plate registration makes everything you mention afterward null and void. Using your thinking, it would be the same as you saying that you are allowed to drive a rocking horse on the free-way solely because you have a drivers license which is "registered" with the Motor Vehicle Registry. I'm really not sure about the legitimacy of that page to be quite frank after reading you rationale.
     
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    All vehicles in Australia are registered (listed) on a national register or list. In addition to any other info that may be recorded on the list or register, is the Vehicle Identification Number as this unique to the vehicle and stays with that vehicle for the life of the vehicle.


    Police use the term 'registration' they don’t refer to "license plate registration," so they invite the suggested response. The issue is about paying money for the right to take our personal conveyance on public owned roads which our taxes have paid for with the 6 or 8, whichever, cent levy we Australians agreed to pay in the 1980's as a result of a referendum on the matter.


    This levy pays for the construction and ongoing maintenance of ALL roads, main roads and local roads, so why should we have to pay again through a license plate registration tax and why also should we have pay again via toll gate tax?


    This in getting off track a bit I admit but its food for thought.


    A "license" makes something legal that would otherwise be illegal. We get a marriage license when we get married so who made marriage illegal and what authority did they have to make it illegal?


    When we "register" anything, we are at least in part, surrendering ownership of what we are 'registering' whether it be our car or our kids. Furthermore, we are claiming slave status because we submit to their 'authority' and we thereby submit to their jurisdiction over us, which makes us subordinate to them.


    We claim slave status because we do as they tell us don’t we?
     
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    I only have the chasis number for My vb wagon
    AVC024614M
    I would like to know what engine I have I think it's a 6 but not sure which
    The car is an auto
    VL159464 That's my engine number
     
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