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How to disable torque managemnt on VZ LS1

Discussion in 'VZ Holden Commodore (2004 - 2006)' started by freefallin, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. freefallin

    freefallin Member

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    I cant do i burn out because car does not allow rpm to build while you are on the brake. I heard in the GTO there is a switch at the brake pedal that you could tape or zip tie in the closed position so that the computer will not know. Is there a simple switch in the VZ? Other than a tune, how can i disable this system?
     
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    WazzaVN Wazza VN

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    I don't know man but I don't have a tune and I can do a burnout on the brakes lol.

    I think the only non dodgy way to dissable it is to get a tune though. You can get mailorders for ls1's cheap enough these days.
     
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    get your car to operating temp, rev to 4000 rpm and dump the clutch.
    to disable torque management you need a tuning software like hp tuners or EFI live.
     
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    Manuals didn't have traction control. At least mine didn't.
     
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    Mine ls1, might be different
     
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    VY SS Manual sedans had it. Ive driven atleast one with it. Cant see why they'd delete it on the next model.
    SS utes up until VZ HSV didn't have it because the load valve takes up that spot on the ABS circuit.
     
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    Ahh that's why. Mines a ute.
     
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    Ah yes. My brothers VZ Thunder didn't have it either.
     
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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    Is traction control on? Would that prevent it?
     
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    Traction control is disabled. Actually the ABS module is disconnected. And no, that is not the reason cz it was doing that even before disconnecting the module. Heard it was because of the something called "torque management"
     
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    one_and_only2004 Turbo L98 FTW

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    That's the one. There's a tab in hp tuner dedicated to deleting it.
     
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    torque management wont stop u from doing a skid on the brakes its no like traction control, alot of people do disable it in the tune like myself and cant say i noticed any big differences in a manual...
     
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    Really? Then what is stopping me?
     
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    does it light up when u just mash it without brakes..? is yours cable throttle or electronic..?
     
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    Actually torque management will stop a skid by electronically close the throttle butterfly if it feels too much torque is being applied to the wheels. Get a tune and be done with it

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Talking about the utes. Vz utes atleast either don't have tc, or don't have a switch to turn it on and off. My buddy's 06 thunder (6ltr) has no switch.

    Would have though tc would be more impotand in a Ute, they're pretty tail happy lol.
     
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    The ve ute is the first commodore ute to have traction control.
    Ironic it's the ute that needs traction control the least.
     
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    i took this info from another site it explains what it does, and that its not designed to stop u doing a skid... also new manuals do use it now also...

    "What is Torque Management (or TM and many refer to it)? TM is part of the programming in the PCM (powertrain control module) that ultimately reduces engine torque when the transmission changes gears. Its purpose it to increase the longevity of the transmission and drivetrain as a whole"
    "What cars have TM?
    All automatic transmission F & Y body cars have TM reducing engine torque during gear changes. Please note that TM is only "active" is automatic transmission cars ( F & Y body). Manual transmission equipped cars do not make use of TM as the average manual driven car has a different kind of power reduction during gear changes. When the average Joe is driving along and goes to make his 2-3 shift, his right foot comes off the throttle, his left foot dis-engages the clutch while he changes gears via the shifter. Once the shift is done the clutch will be re-engaged and the throttle will be depressed once again. Therefore, TM is not necessary in manual equipped cars, as the average way that a manual is driven has a sort of self imposed torque reduction. Note, this is the way the "average" person drives, not the way a lot of us drive"
     

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