How to pick a real Brocky?

mmm got me thinkin if his real or not unless his uncle put a new gearbox in it it has done a shitload of k's but very straight. got a supra 5 speed box in it now

 

Well the Group 3 VKs had an auto option. Also same with Calais Director, Vk ADP,auto option was avaliable.
Vee Ka is sort of right, the Grp As were only manual, the VH SS Group1,2 and 3 was the same. The SLE based ADP some were auto, don't know about the SL, SL/X.
I tell you what kritical tell us what colour is this VK your mates is and someone can tell you if its a HDT or not. Also ask him to find the builders number, i have a book here that has all HDT/Brock Commodores build numbers listed.

 

thanks mate :thumbsup: i knew someone on here would know for sure!! i forgot about the calais' etc!! most of the calais directors were autos werent they cause of the people buying em and they were suppose to be a luxury perfomance car etc etc!!

 

Well the Calais Directors i'm not sure on. Seen most in auto but 5 speed was there if you ticked the box. I fully optioned Director would have 5 speed.

 

easyest way to tall a slr5000
biuld 1~380
is to look at engine number
ALL must have (HZ xxxx xxxx) serial or it is fake!
note engine block retails for $30,000+ no bull

 

Don't you mean SL/R5000 option L34?. Cause if a stock SLR5000 308 for $30,000 your paying way to much. A L34 block i can understand.

 

l34 let's look at that
SL/R 5000
repco/holden 308 6bolt mains/stud girdles/head to sump head bolts
brabham duell plane manifold/conrod's/flat top piston's
repco L34 vaves/tripple springs/brass guides/titanium collets
hdt ported polished head
stromberg 4bbl carb (NOT ROCHESTER)
the block was also ribbed for strength
(note most of the engine's were used in the A9/X by respective race team's)
but did't come with that car as standed

 

No offence mate but there is some mistakes in that.
6 bolt mains. No they only had 2 bolt mains. Stud girdles again no.Head to sump bolts another mistake. They had however a sump widage tray.
Brabham manifold. Again no the L34 had a standard 308 inlet manifold but with the water heating on the manifold deleted also machined out where the carby went. The conrods was Holden cast heavy duty "X" rods, same cast used for A9L rods.
The heads. Well they used rollor rockers from factory. Double springs not tripple. The port and polished head, this was done by Yella Terra, not HDT.
Carby was Rochester Quadrajet, unless you had the rare L34 HO, Holley was used.
The block is whats called a heavy duty cast based off the F5000. Later VN blocks are cast the same way. IT had extra webing around the crank and cam areas, thats all.
Also of note is that the distributor was a four lobe twin pint set up. It uses twin coils.
Yes some teams used the same motor in the A9X program, but the road version never did.

Source of MY info, History of The Holden V8 by Fiv Antoniou, Australian Muscle car 30th Anniversay of the L34 and various old Racing car news mags.

 

check history again
repco/brabham/holden
(not sold to the puplic)
L34 is a pore copy
only sold with c.a.m licence
check for (HZ) serial numbers

 

do not confuse l34 option pack
with l34 repco engine

 

If it wasn't sold to the public, why is there a heap of stock L34s that has been road rego since new?. The CAM licence was a wind up, thats been well documated in AMC issue 15.http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Australian-M...QQihZ010QQcategoryZ109525QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Whats with the repco/brabhan/holden. Only thing is the block, repco cast and the rest Holden.
And whats with the L34 a pore copy?.
Also i know a few experts on the L34/A9X, what i have said is correct.

 

What??? they are the same bloody thing!!!!! The L34 option pack is a L34 SL/R5000. Only difference is the L34 HO, more race components, the Banana manifold for weber carbys or holley.

 

the L34 repco was copyed to the exent of the valves only
and sold as such IE L34 heads made by third party to cash in on the name
typicly only contained L34 vaves 2/25" in diamiter
that it nothing more
beleve me the genuine L34 repco is 6bolt main and yes a stromberg 4bbl

 

Mate where are you getting your info?. I have seen 3 genuine L34 blocks striped and only had 2 bolt mains. And the 3 had Rochester carbys.
Look try to get that AMC mag and read what Harry Firth says about the L34, its nothing what so ever what you've have said.
I think your confused with the repco F5000 motor, used in F5000 race cars, they are completely different to the L34 Torana.

 

i dont wanna take someone elses thead
all i ask is check the serial numbers if
it starts with QR/QT then it's fake must start with HZ serials(engine block)

 

HZ for the factory L34 block, NZ for the replacement warrenty one. These where HZ prefix blocks not the HQ-HZ QT ones.

 

ALL 253-308 WERE STAMPED QR/QT HOLDEN
ONLY REPCO BLOCKES STAMED HZ
there was no factory stamped L34, only as an option
these engins were sold to race teams and speares were sold to other c.a.m licence
partyes i dont know how i can put it simpler
1st hand khowelege no book no hearsay no bs 1st hand

 

not all 253/308s were QR/QT, the Commodores had VR/VT and the Statesman had 11QT, WBs used WR/WT.
Also on the build plate for L34s, has ENG.L34, the SLR5000 used ENG.L31.
I can tell you your info is correct, even Harry Firth has came out and told the world about the L34.
History of The Holden V8 even has the CAM papers for the L34 torry in the back.

Oh and EDIT so your really saying these ppl that own a L34 are fakes?. If so i wouldn't tell the owners that, they would be very upset. Like telling a GTHO Phase III owner that its just a falcon

 

sinse when were the commos built while the torries where in action

 

will you stop looking at the compliance plate
and look at the motor