ignition fault

[bucksta]

my vr has a problem starting , both keys lock up when trying to start, both keys have no problem opening the doors, how do isolate the faulty part without spending a fortune on a new ignition and key assy.

 

[VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET]

Ignition Barrel Stuffed !!

Hi ya all !!

I have a problem:cry: similar to BUCKSTA but mines a VS-SII, that I can't seem to start the car which I feel and think its my ignition barrel is stuffed though the battery is fine and alternator has been checked out as well so I am wondering if I get a another ignition barrel for VS and do I need to get security coded into the new barrel and will it affect my central locking system ?? :bang:

Also how do I get the barrel off the steering column to replace it its welded on one end and i would not have a clue how to get it off :cry: :ranting:, is there a special tool to do this and since I really need to fix it ASAP for travel to work although any suggestions would be helpful !!??

Cheers

 

[shaggerz]

my vr has a problem starting , both keys lock up when trying to start, both keys have no problem opening the doors, how do isolate the faulty part without spending a fortune on a new ignition and key assy.

bucksta: can you clarify? If by "lock up" you mean they physically dont turn, then the fault is with your ignition barrel. If you mean you can turn them fine but the starter does not operate, then the key reader is probably at fault (assuming you have ruled out a problem with the starting system)

VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET: The key's coding is contained in the body control module underneath the dash. It matches to a small chip in the key itself which is read when you insert the key via a metal ring around the outside of the ignition barrel which is known as the key reader. Try leaving the key in the ignition and turned on for an hour and a half, then try and start the car. If it starts, then the BCM is unable to read the key. If you have a second key and this one does not work either, then the key reader is probably faulty.

 

[hako]

If these cars are autos then it may also be the auto trans inhibitor switch out of adjustment.

 

[SlyVR]

If these cars are autos then it may also be the auto trans inhibitor switch out of adjustment.

and how do we check/reset/replace this????

 

[VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET]

Shaggerz Wrote:The key's coding is contained in the body control module underneath the dash. It matches to a small chip in the key itself which is read when you insert the key via a metal ring around the outside of the ignition barrel which is known as the key reader. Try leaving the key in the ignition and turned on for an hour and a half, then try and start the car. If it starts, then the BCM is unable to read the key. If you have a second key and this one does not work either, then the key reader is probably faulty.

I almost forget to say is I already had a new set of key about two months ago when the original one is stuffed it worked alright until a few days ago that I couldn't start but the key does turn but not firing and it feels really soft to turn as I got used to be turning a little tight turns when starting the car, I know it touches the metal rim on the barrel to read the key and I also already did what u suggested leaving either both keys in for an hour but this had no affect at all to start it but there is lights on dash (battery + motor + coolant) I think and interior light as well was on so, it's very confusing was is the problem though like I said it may be the barrel or something else ?? I also checked for fuses all seem fine and OK !!

Cheers !!

 

[VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET]

If these cars are autos then it may also be the auto trans inhibitor switch out of adjustment.

Yeah !! It is an auto gearbox that I'm runnin on, thou could you tell me where the heck is this INHIBITOR SWITCH would be found @ ??

Wondering what would this switch be related to this problem ?? Anyhow any info on this would be great if I can clarify my prob's ATM...

 

[VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET]

Another thing I forgot to add earlier....

When I tried to figure out this prob, I noticed that when I put key in and turn it as it does nothing but soon as I take the key out and I found out that it leaves the dash lights on including interior lights anything running out on earth points I guess so it's strange that I have taken the key out but everything should have been switched off as soon I did that...

I have disconnected the battery to save power and my guess is that definitely the barrel is @ fault ATM !!!

Anyone know how to remove the ignition barrel at this point ???

Any info on this would be a great helpful...

Cheers !!

 

[shaggerz]

Ahh yes I completely forgot the inhibitor switch.

VS-SII_SILVER_BULLET: it does sound like the barrel is rooted.

edit: to remove it I hear you need to put the key in an push a pin into some hole on the barrel... having never done it myself I couldnt give you any more detail I'm afraid.

 

[Immortality]

if they key is turning the barrel wouldn't it point to another problem unless the link between the barrel and the actual ignition switch is faulty. in the VS, the power stays on for about 30 seconds after turning the ignition off etc so you can still put up the electric windows etc, also when you unlock(with the unlock button on the key) the car and get in the interior light normaly stays on untill you put the key in the ignition and turn the key to on (i guess another creature comfort feature to assist you at night)