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install stock cruise on a vn s-pack

Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by stackner, Jan 23, 2005.

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    hi guys. i have a new question for everyone. i have a 1990 vn s-pack. it has no cruise control currently. what i want to know is if i get the complete cruise control unit with the wiring and switches from the local wreckers should it be very difficult to wire it into my car? will i need anything extra? what would be really great is if someone has a wire chart or some kind of help for doing the wiring. cheers.
     
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    Yes it is pretty easy although you need the right hand switchblock for the controls ...that is a bit finicky as well as the two extra wires that go to the instrument cluster connectors.
    Some cars have the cruise control wiring installed separate so look for these...they will be identified by the separate wiring loom coming out of the stepper motor and not taped into the main loom.
    here's the circuit diagram
     
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    thank you for the help. sounds like i will go ahead with it then. and the wire diagram is GREAT cheers. so all i do is bolt the unit on the engine thread the wires through under the dash put the brake switch in and wire it and replace the dash switches for the cruise ones and wite them basicly.
     
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    wear did you get the unit from? and how much was it if you don't mine?
     
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    i have not yet got the unit. i am going to pick one up from a local wrecker. from different wreckers in my area melbourne/vic/australia they seem to range round $220 - $250
     
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    by any chance would the cruise control unit from a V8 fit on a V6
     
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    Hi all,
    I've done this mod to my '90 Series 1 V6 and it worked fine, only prob I encountered was the SET and RESUME buttons were wired in reverse, which I preferred anyway. Easy fixed by changing over the labels on the buttons, job done....

    The wiring loom is available from Holden at around the 120 mark I think. As long as it comes with all the female pin connectors ready to push into the dash wiring blocks, it should be a peice of cake. Otherwise wiring into the blocks could be a little tricky as you will need the correct connectors and the correct crimping tool. Maybe a nice little job for your auto elec? But fitting them to the blocks will be dead easy using the wiring diagram.

    Below is the link to the thread I originally commented on, this(along with the wiring diagram already supplied) should help give a picture of whats involved. I have some basic pics of the unit, loom, wiring to fuse box and the brake switches if someone would like me to post them on here also, someone just needs to ask. I have them on my PC at work and can post them tonight....while I'm on night shift. :eek:

    As for fitting to a V8, I'm not sure, but reckon the only issue would be wiring into the dash if there was going to be a problem. Everything else should be alright I would think, as it's a straight bolt on for the control module and the throttle control.

    All said and done, it's nice to have a factory accessory rather than a bolt on from Autobarn.... :)

    Cheers.... :drink:

    http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/showthread.php?p=37479#post37479
     
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    a posting of the pics would be GREAT. pics are always good lol. or to stackner@gmail.com also how much did all the parts cost you and from where? you said you bought the wire loom from holden did you get the rest from wreckers or what? thanx. just wondering as ive been quoted about $220 - $250 for everything from local wreckers.
     
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    do you think it would also be possible to wire up a set of ford au cruise switches (that go on the steering wheel) to work the vn cruise control????
     

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    Don't know about the Ford controls.... Thought about that myself, but decided to stick with the factory stuff. Could be messy and the audio controls would be wasted and therefore out of place?

    I picked up everything I needed from a mate who was wrecking a VN for $170, a very casual half a day to fit it. I didn't purchase the loom, but did make enquiries and Holden said they could get it for around $110-$120. You will get it cheaper if you know someone that can get trade discount. $220-$250 doesn't sound bad, just make sure you get everything needed.

    Some of the loom wiring goes to a couple of wiring blocks that the dash cluster plugs into. These blocks have other wiring as well, so be careful what they give you as it may get messy. I had the fortune of getting the blocks with all the non cruise wiring cut off. I just noted the wiring in the original blocks then extracted the cruise wires and then re-inserted them into the blocks in my car. As I remember, I had to do the same on the switch block plugs which needed some pretty fancy Stanley knife work to extract the connectors out of the old plugs.

    I wanted to paste these images in, but not sure how to do it. :bang:

    Let me know if you want any more info, will try and help if I can.

    Here's some pics....
     

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    sorry to bother you guys again but just wanna make sure i get every part i need first trip to the local wreckers. what are all the parts AND part names i will need to pickup to fit the cruise control to my vn s-pack. cheers
     
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    i will sell u a vp cruise controll thingy i have all of it let me no i will be cheaper then the wreckers
     
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    well i have started installing a unit today. not much time before i goto work so i have not got very far. just a couple of before and after. cheers.
     

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    am i right to guess that its a PINK wire that goes to the fuse block for the power pickup? hard to see. as in a wiring diagram i have it marks a pink wire to goto a fuse and the picture you posted looks like a red (maybe pink) wire. i have attached the wire diagrame i got. just need to know if it is the PINK wire i hookup the the fuse block
     

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    hmmm used to have a cruise unit just like that one.....

    if u need any help putting it in i can take so photos from where i pulled things out from.
    good luck with it all
     
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    Ive got a secondhand wirng loom for cruise control for a VN/P if anyone wants one for $20+post with all the plugs intact and lugs on the ends going to the switchblock and instrument cluster so it will plug straight in if anyone is interested.


    That wiring diagram above is very familar.
     
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    ill actually keep that in mind. although the wiring seems quite easy. the only thing i am unsure of is what i had just asked. does the pink wire also goto the fuse block?i see on the wiring diagrame it has fuse and on the pictures provided from someone who has done this they have a wire to the fuse block that looks red (maybe pink) so thats my question does the pink wire have to goto the fuse block (markovr)? lol as its your diagram i belive. other than that i seem to be fine with the wiring and your fine diagram.
     
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    "legend" i suggest if anyone wants any commodore parts to contact this guy (if he still has any left lol) as this is where i picked up my cruise unit from and as he told me it would be it was cheaper than even the cheapest wrecker round here. very friendly guy to talk to and been a great help!!!!
     
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    well half a day wasted LOL. fitted all the wiring and nothing whatso ever. no green light to say that the cruise unit is turned on even. this green light to say cruise is turned on (not activated) should tuen on even when the car is stationary right? well got the right hand switch block checked and its dead so gona have to goto the wreckers for a $70 switch block. sucks but owell **** happens.
     

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