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is a toyota lexcen engine better than a vp

Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by stackner, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. stackner

    stackner New Member

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    is the engine in a toyota lexen (92 model) the same as the one in the vp commodore or different? if different is it better or whats the story? cheers.
     
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    Dayvo Because i can

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    they are more or less the same car only cosmetic changes
     
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    i figured as much. just herd a rumor the engines were slightly different.
     
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    all came out of the same factory off the same production line...
     
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    so here is a question for you then. who made them. are they all more holdens or toyotas?
     
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    if i had to take a guess i would say that holden brought out more,with the buick v6.
    but here`s a good question for you all. what company made the vn v8`s?
     
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    now i dont know a whole lot but chev or pontiac is sitting in my mind for somereason or another?
     
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    It had to be holden, toyota couldnt make something that good, thats why they had to borrow the design off holden ;)
     
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    They are all holdens with different badges & trim.
    VNV8 is a holden produced engine, based on the original 5.0 which was based on an old Buick V8 (early sixties)

    Rob
     
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    did you know that the orignal motors that was going to to put into the vn`s was the vl turboed motor.
    and also that the first of the buick v6`s was carby driven.and they some times also run them in the odl daytona cars
     
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    It was the Indy cars the Buick V6 ran in (turbo), it was very quick and successful too
     
  12. shut up green foam whut u know, lol jus kiddin, didnt holden make the 304ci injected 8 for the VN - VT?
     
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    No, it wasn't the turbo engine but the N/A one (turbo may have been an option). If not for the exchange rate with the Japanese yen turning sour the VN may well have been powered by the Nissan donk. Holden ran two engineering & costing programs simultaneously - one with the Nissan straight 6 and one with the Buick V6. It wasn't a last minute decision to go with the Buick but it certainly wasn't an early call either. Apart from the higher cost, one of the deciding factors was that Nissan weren't prepared to increase the capacity of the engine, and up against the 3.9L Falcon at the time it would have been a tough marketing sell with just a 3.0 (the bigger is better approach was still the thinking back then).
     
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    hit the nail on the head!!!
     
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    so is the lexan a s1 or s2 buick
     
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    well the lexcen im looking at (VP) has a series 2 in it.
     
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    Basically ... you're buying a commodore with a different set of lights in the back, a different front bar and indicators in the bumper and parkers where the front indicators would normally be in a commodore, all in all ... buy a new front bar and light set-up from a swap meet off a VP Commodore, price of which will vary but it wouldn't be anything extravagant, the most expensive part will be to change the wiring around to suit the indicators being in the front next to the Headlights and not in the bar, if you do all that and debadge the car ... nobody would know the difference, that's all that changed for them ... and I can back this up with experience as I work for Toyota and I drive a VP ... lol

    Damian
     
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    The front guards are slightly different too, as the lexcen's parking lights (in same place as VPs indicators) are a different shape - they're similar to the VR/VS Statesman so I'm not sure if you'll get it looking exactly the same but you could put orange globes in the existing parking light assembly and pull up the globe holder as the wire might be long enough to reach!
     
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    Not sure about the VP but my VN lexcen has different mudflaps too, little mini plastic ones like on the newer models, very posh compared to the rubber monsters on the commodore
     
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    yeah i have the front end ready to go on it ;) cheers.
     

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