Is anyone considering the NG commodore after their VF?

having built many engines my self and stripped lots of high milage engines that have run and were still serviceable after years of running on sludge
my point is a v8 engine is more reliable , cheaper to service and repair, and will last alot longer it abused and not serviced than a turbo engine having been treated the same
thats not crap thats a fact
another armchair expert ,makes me laugh
dude dirty oil roots a turbo engine real quick, heat warps and cracks turbo housings, chews up shaft bearings
a v8 will just keep chugging along for years
enough said believe what you like

 

Not twin turbo? Got it wrong again...

 

so thats crap too is it i rest my case
expensive to maintain and repair and unreliable,
give me a v8 any day , buzz box no way

 

You make some seriously good points. If only Holden can listen to your points then they can produce a V8 Commodore again. I doubt it. The electronics will probably fail before the engine does. No one holds onto their V8 for 400,000kms.

I saw a good feature on Sky F1 regarding the old F1 V8s with the great sound as opposed to the current F1 V6 Hybrids. The old F1 V8s does not match the performance to the current F1 V6 Hybrids. That's as technical as I can get...

 

Yes, I put the word twin turbo in there and it was a mistake. No, I don't work for Holden. Yes, I work at one of the dealers. No, I am not a mechanic. Yes, I am a stupid salesman. Yes, I got it wrong this time. Yes, I apologise. No, I am not a Holden employee.

 

400 000ks on a v8 is nothing, i have a v8 with well over 400 000 ks, speedo stopped working years ago
removed the heads to replace seals and std bores still have hone marks
i know lots people with very high milage cars , they hang on to them

 

That's just because VAG still seems to be making some dodgy stuff ... still.
Every now & again, maybe every year or so, I think I might like something like an Octavia RS245 wagon ... then someone has a story like the above, and it scares me again.

But if you're saying that turbo 4cyl engines are short-lived & VAG is the proof, then I'll suggest V8's are all hand-grenades and point you to the short-lived engine in an Alfa Romeo Monte Carlo as proof.

It wasn't just performance either ... those engines just hated rotating at those speeds / under those loads. For example, if I return-cruised to Canberra or the Hunter Valley from Sydney in the VS with the cruise-control set to 100 (it sorta works most of the time, just plonked myself in the far left lane & almost never have to consider overtaking) I would get 6.5L/100km back when we first got the car at 11yrs old. But set the cruise to an indicated 120km/h, and suddenly it's 8L/100km. That's a big difference!

 

aren't we talking ls engines , were did a alfa come from ahhh i give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And i've seen V6 Commodores throw timing chains at 40,000km and V8's wipe cam lobes at 10,000km...it happens. There are also thousands and millions of 4cyl motors sold every year that outlive the lifecycle of the car. Lets not use outliers of data to point to an inherent flaw or issue.

Uh-huh.

Bullshit.
Double the amount of oil and spark plugs. Running costs are higher.
Reliability, show me figures that pinpoint your claim that all V8 engines are more reliable than all 4cylinder turbo motors. Please, im waiting.

Nope, that's your opinion, and your opinion is based off of no fact.

Dirty oil is detrimental to any engine and funnily enough so is excessive heat so if your reason for owning a V8 is ultimatly because you're too lazy or cheap to properly maintain it so you feel you have some kind of leniency then no wonder you've had to tear so many engines down.

 

NSW police just ordered up to 200 Chrysler SRT 350kw 6.4 litre V8 for their Highway Patrol. Guess few young petrol heads will be tempting to get a job with the NSW Highway Patrol.

 

"Does my bum look big in this?"

 

So if everyone had a V8 then they could hold onto them to at least to 400000kms and if the average person drives 15000km per year then that person would hold onto their car for 26 years or so, and the average person would turnover their car every 26 years. Then manufacturing of cars around the world would stop.

That's unrealistic that everyone would drive a V8, so lets say that every Commodore owner had a V8 then they could hold onto them to at least to 400000kms and if the average Commodore owner drives 15000km per year then that Commodore owner would hold onto their car for 26 years or so, and the average Commodore owner would turnover their car every 26 years. Then manufacturing of V8 Commodores would stop.

 

I had my previous V8 for 19 yrs and sold it at 292,xxx. Not quite 400,000 kms or 26 yrs but the lions share of it.

I hope they didn't stop making V8 Commodores because of me.

 

Maybe they have a daily driver for general use which they turn over regularly and a V8 Commodore for weekends and it ends up lasting two lifetimes.

Maybe they have more than one V8, the flash one and a run of the mill one as plenty of homes these days have multiple cars in their driveway.




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Ridiculous. That would never happen.

 

There's never a safe answer to that!

 

I was just working out the math of a V8 Commodore running up to 400000km in its lifetime, so it should last 26 years. Ah, if only all Commodores could be V8s...

 

In relation to the topic question, yes. Not for me though, the household CEO and minister of finance is currently driving a Trax, but in about 12 to 18 months I'm happy to plonk her behind the wheel for a test thrash, 6 cylinder though.... As a side note, one thing I've noticed a bit over a number of decades is that stuff changes, including our drives / rides... I think generally for the better.... mind you I wish I still has my HK Monaro (damn...)

 

I think I am looking at a Mazda 6