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Is anyone considering the NG commodore after their VF?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by tml678, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. VT&VX

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    They need to keep their own style and push it through their range.

    Put a Camaro style nose on the V6 AWD.
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    Wasn’t that the same for some VF trim levels, unless you paid extra?
     
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    Holden added a full size spare to most models towards the end. They also removed things like rear cup holders, CD player and the second horn at the same time. I'd much rather rear cup holders and a horn that works, but I guess I'll have a full size spare for that one time a decade I get a flat.
     
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    It should be possible to order a cup-holder delete option, just like it was possible to order a cigarette-lighter delete option back before cigarette lighters become non-PC!!
    No cup's ever goin' in any car of mine ...
     
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    Mine has the bloody spray can in it. Apparently the diff centre is too big in HSV models to have even a space saver let alone a full size spare. A full size can go in the boot itself on an optional bracket fitted to the boot floor but you lose half the boot space, not to mention the weight.
     
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    Off the topic. Have been looking around to place my 8 years old 7 seat family car Mazda CX9 with 80,000 km on it. A direct replacement of a new CX9 is over $65K. Saw this Chinese made Haval H9 (looks like a Toyota Prado - $75K) at $45K on the road and has all the whistles and bells, even massage seat. It comes with 5 years warranty and roadside assistance. Read all the reviews on the H9, not too bad considering the $45 price tag for occasionally family bush ventures. It reminds me of 40 years ago when everyone said not to buy Japanese, 20 years ago it was Korean, now it is Chinese.
     
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    Safety rating ?
     
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    Mate, if you need a 7-8 seater, do yourself a favour and have a look at the Kia Carnival. We have one and it is amazing. You can fill it to the brim with 8 people and it will still swallow multiple full size suitcases. Yes it's a people mover as opposed to an SUV, but you get a stack more room and a 7yr warranty to boot. All the reviews rave about it for good reason. remote controlled power sliding doors and tailgate, aircon vents for all three rows, side curtain airbags for all three rows (this is a big one, not a lot of SUV's have this). Not trying to tell you how to suck eggs, but I honestly can't speak highly enough of it if you need a car to cart a few bodies around.

    Price varies from late thirties into mid sixties, depending on model/grade. The diesel engine is the pick though. We average 7-8l/100kmh and that's mainly around town.
     
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    The only thing that will get me out of my V8 VF will be the Dodge Charger if they ever send them over here
     
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    They’re all a simplified version of the same early 90’s E-Class Benz, with different panels over the top, aren’t they? Challenger, Charger, 300?

    By 1978, Japanese cars were way ahead of the curve than Chinese cars are now. Accord, Civic, even non-Holden-engined Coronas.
    By 1998, Hyundais were way ahead of the curve than Chinese cars are now. Remember how bad X3 Excels were, which were absolutely everywhere? Way better than anything Chinese is now!

    Chinese cars are more like a 1985 Alan Bond era Hyundai Excel.
    Or a Daewoo 1.5i (except without licencing fees being paid to the people who actually designed the car).
     
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    Thanks "tml678", needs 4 WD Suv for the occasionally visits to friend's farm, went there in my Redline ute back in February, nearly got stuck in the muddy tracks and scrapped the underside few times. With the same sort of fit outs as H9, the Carnival costs $15k more. 2018 H9 should get the 5 stars safety, according to the reviews, H9 is quite promising. I wouldn't say it is in 1985 era, more of late 2000s, around 10 years behind the latest technology. As I were saying, it is for weekend family outings, no speeding, no rally driving and doesn't have to be entertaining. I get all that in my ute during the weekdays.:D
     
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    For the occasional muddy track...
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    Well, if you do decide to fork-out then good luck ... but don’t forget that all those people who bought Daewoo 1.5i’s and ‘85 Excels and ‘78 Rover 3500’s said “how bad can it be?”.
     
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    Thanks "VT&VX", it wasn't lack of traction, those muddy tracks were well worn with two deep trenches, my ute nearly got hung up by the mount in between the trenches.

    No worry "Forg", haven't the money to get one yet. Watched this reviews online from 4x4 Adventure website, a bunch of guys test drove H9 and all gave it a thumb up. It is a lot of car for $46K with 5 years warranty. I am surprised that it has a 8 speed ZF gearbox made in Germany, the rest of build quality may be iffy but still can't get over that it is $46K for the Ultra and $42 for the Lux, on the road.
     
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    Interestingly, my MSE has no rear cup holders in the front of the rear seat bottom. Where as, my MY14 Redline and MY17 SV6 Sportwagon do.
     
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    Same lol. The rear ones never get used. Only water in the fronts, when travelling.
     
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    From what I’ve read on this forum; they were removed from sedans either for VFII or MY15, although wagons continue to get them.
     
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    Sadly they were dropped on all sedans for MY17 (cost cutting). Need to drop the ski port thingy but the cup holders in that aren't as good as the ones in the rear seat.

    Interesting that a MY17 SV6 wagon has them. Maybe MY17 Redline wagon has them. If so they should be able to be retrofitted into a sedan as same platform.
     
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