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Is it worth upgrading VF2 SS to 375 or 400 kw?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by yz23, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Jarp

    Jarp Surely You Jest

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    Panhead...do you reckon the GTS and the C63 would be more comparable. Certainly closer in price...although still some margin there.

    Personally I'm enjoying the W375 and am happy that I've some fall back with warranty (for what it's worth). Blower would be nice though.
     
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    Hi mate : i agree with u 100% that the C63 is a far superior car in every aspect except bang for your buck : ive seen the specs on the 2016 C63 n yes they r impressive but as u said u r forking out alot more coin for that package n so u would expect it to b far superior : all i was saying is that id rather just drive my redline thats all ☺
     
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    Mate I'm not having a go at anyones choice as we all have opinions, preferences and tastes, I'm just saying the performance Euros and Commodores don't relate on any level other than power output.

    The LSA GTS is a great car as are the Commodores with packages from Walkinshaw, Tekno, KPM and a number of other tuners and heaven help that I should say it on this forum but I also think the turbo and supercharged Fords are a real goer as well and the XR6T would possibly be my choice if I was just looking for a lot of power with as little an outlay as possible.

    I'm not a brand whore as I own a number of different makes, I just try to be practical and unbiased in my thinking.

    The warranty comes from Walkinshaw and other tuners offer that as well, Holden will still warrant any unrelated issues outside of that.

    You sound like you've already got the age old performance enthusiast's bug where you've upped the power then got used to it and now you're starting looking again, the blower would be a great solution.

    Personally I like the sound of these packages but I've not tried one.

    Powerpacks

    I used to think power was everything but these days I also buy cars for other characteristics and understand too much power can just make a poor chassis feel poorer.
     
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    Having owned a well modified G6eT and now a stock HSV GEN F GTS there's no comparison between the two. Raw power of the Ford was great but the car as a package isn't meant to accommodate this upgrade.
    The GTS, although not modded, has perfect balance and is a finely tuned machine - so much more than the Ford and even the VF SS I've got.
    The GTS has a lot more power in it too, but with 430kw it's enough for what my wife's ability can do with it. AMG or M division sedans are a bit more upmarket but no more or less capable at motorsport.
    Short of track work, the GTS is all the car you'll need. If you want to destroy lap records then you'll need purpose built cars like a Lotus or Porsche.
     
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    i must be in the minority where i've gone from a VF with 245 rwkw to a VF2 with a magnuson pumping out over 400 rwkw, and sort of wished i still had the VF1. the VF2 is a dog to drive in traffic, though that probably has more to do with the cam and a very poor tune. You also can't use all that power as the thing wants to throw you into a wall at anything over half throttle........no traction at all.

    Most tuners just look at getting maximum power to the back wheels and don't seem to give a **** about drive ability
     
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    Thought you were going to get someone else to look at that tune?
     
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    Couldnt agree more, my brother is buying c63s coupe and been for a test drive. That car is on another level, just like its price tag.

    As for my holden i would love to get just that little more torque out of it and do it properly even if it costs a little more. No cheap and quick way.
     
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    Does your car go sideways in 1st and 2nd now?
     
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    Where did you get on done and how much? How different is it and what's your fuel consumption like?

    I'm thinking about it abd really curios on the difference !
     
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    Got it back after not having it for nearly a week. Runs much better as the mixtures were all over the place , less fumey, and they even found another 20rwkw. Still has a bit of a surge just when you're about to stop though i can live with that. Would've been a much nicer car to drive though with the stock cam.

    Whilst mine was getting worked on i was driving the boss's GTS. This one's had the Harrop stage 3 kit, and has a bit over 400rwkw. Still maintains its normal manners, though explodes into action when you give it some. My wife could easily drive the GTS. She won't go near the Redline
     
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    whats wrong with the redline??
     
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    It's supercharged and cammed. Not the easiest car to drive
     
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    quicker than the GTS?
     
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    Hard to tell, as i can't get traction in it, though I'm guessing it would be . It does feel punchier than the GTS
     
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    Good thread to read as I am starting my research into a mod on my VF2 Redline. I have been impressed with CA Autofashion in Melbourne, thier HP kits seem very competitive in price and performance, I'm looking at the Stage 7 385Kw with 3inch exhaust for mine. Has anyone had these guys trick theirs up? I would be interested for real world feedback, but their videos look impressive. I really like that they incorporate the factory bi-modal into the Di Fillipo system.
     
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    I'd focus a lot of energy into getting as wide a tyre as possible on the rears with any decent power upgrades to these V8's. There's a reason the factory released HiPo ZL1 Camaro and GT350R Shelby Mustang have 305 and 315 rears respectively. It's so you can hook up and not waste all that power.
     
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    Hi all : i just got the W407 upgrade on my vf2 ssvr : also got it lowered all round with kings ssl springs : drives excellent with no issues at all ☺
     
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    Nice upgrade, shame about the username.
     
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    Thank
    Thanks mate ☺ yeah i dont think u can change that otherwise i would ☺
     
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    My VF1 has cam, intake, headers plus full exhaust & a tune. It increased output by 100 rear wheel Kw. I imagine that a VF2 would respond in a similar fashion. Choosing the right cam with your tuner is going to be important for drivability and living with the car but in my case, I know & trust the tuner and I've been really very happy with the results. The car come alive massively and is just so much better to drive down a backroad than the stock version, fantastic on the road in a whole bunch of situations - well worth doing but do pick a good tuner. I'd suggest spending a bit of time to see who you're comfortable with.
     

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