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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by MovieDude, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. MovieDude

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    Should I be using premium (98RON) petrol in my VE SS? I have been using E10 and 'standard' unleaded petrol (91RON) and so far have not noticed any problems. Occassionally, I put premium in when I'm feeling flush but this is only once every six months.
     
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    Darren Administrator Staff Member

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    It's hard to give a direct answer, there are soo many variables involved it's not funny.

    Me personally I have never had a problem with BP Ultimate so that's what I've used in the past 3 cars.

    There are horror stories around the place where people have purchased 'shonky' fuel and has cost them dearly for repairs as Holden wouldn't come to the party, all to save a few bucks at the bowser (IMHO).

    Another reason my car was tuned on premium so I'll stick to it for the ~ dollar it's going to cost when I fill up, I don't own a V8 to be worried about fuel.

    Some people say they get better economy, runs smoother, whatever the reason it comes down to personal preference and the vehicle.
     
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    Hunter SS Growing Old Disgracefully

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    Holden specifies 98 in the SS and it is tuned and designed to run on 98.
    It will run on normal ULP, and it will also run on E10, but on E10 i noticed a drop in power, and fuel consumption went up about 1.5 per 100. It didn't run rough or give any problems. I get the wife to fill it with 98 every week now.
     
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    i hava vt clubby and in the hsv manual it recomends 91 octane
     
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    lil_mickey LOUD AND PROUD

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    LOL At her expense?:thumbsup:

    I used e10 in my stock rb30e VL and it ran like an absolute b**ch...
    Took two tanks of 98 to make it feel right...

    E10 cant be good for an ss... even regular would be better
     
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    To be honest I can't say I've noticed any difference in power between the three grades but I would say that fuel consumption on premium is slightly worse.
    Yes Holden do say 98RON is recommended but the fuel filler cap has a label saying that "E10 suitable". I am more concerned to know if using E10 for long periods can harm the engine.
     
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    BOY1236 Crazy dude in a V8

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    the manual says so .

    in KSA we only had the 95 octane, but only 3 years ago they brought up 91. nothing more only those 2

    from the manual : "when using 91 octane fuel the car will run normally , but expect some drop in performance and fuel economy "

    I tried 91 on my 96 Chevy Caprice (Lt1), it ran like s*** ! it lost about 20-30% of it's power, plus it used more fuel than ever

    but when I have to pay 0.16USD for 1 liter of 95 octane , who cares :D
     
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    Likewise, for ages now there were reports (today tonight and the likes) on don't touch ethanol then whammo a couple of years later there was this massive turn around basically say it's safe, more economical and there's no reason not to use it.

    Now sure times change but personally I wouldn't put the stuff in my car, it simply doesn't feel right.
     
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    lemme get this right, you have no speed limits and are paying 22cents AU a litre for petrol. i know where im moving to.
     
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    I agree and I know this is what the service centre is going to say if I ask their advice whereas the salesman will say whatever you want to hear.
     
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    it says E10 compatible because it is designed to also run on it...... mine ran ok, didn't run like $hit, but you could feel the power loss and i reset the trip computer.... the car gets on average about 11.9 litres per 100 when the wife drives it, and most of that travel is on the highway. With E10 and her driving it the same as always, it got 13.5 for the week, and i only drove it once.
    But as i said before, the V6 VE ran great on it and it always averaged about 10.9 per 100 on it or normal unleaded.
    I thought i saw once a servo with 95 grade E10, but haven't seen it since.... i might have been mistaken.
     
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    i worked it out the other day on how much extra it costs me to run 98,

    4 bux more to fill the tank on it.

    it comes down to warranty, if something happens and your not using the correct fuel then holden wont fix the problem.
     
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    But E10 is also the correct fuel (filler cap).
     
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    i was more reffering to the use of 91 and 95 fuel. if your using e10 then there wouldn't be an issue
     
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    I'd be inclined to use Premium where possible. It can't do any harm. Not all about power but moreso keeping the engine clean. Can be said for most cars.
     
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    Mm easy answer. Would you crap for breakfast, lunch or tea?
    Same when using unleaded in your car.
    For the lousy what $15 or so, the extra mileage you would get in Premium. Unleaded is no cheaper in the long run.
     
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    I am unsure whether ULP or premium give better mileage over E10 and from my limited usage neither gives better performance. My main concern is not to cause damage to the car.
     
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    Then just run the premium in it.

    I run premium through my VT, mainly because that's what it was tuned on. And, with fuel prices what they are at the moment when you think about what you get for your $$, the couple of extra bucks you spend at the pump are well worth it in enjoyment down the road.
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    I've been running them on normal unleaded for years. Never tried the E10. I did a trial with premium 98 octane for a few months a few years ago. I found there were minor power and economy improvements but not to overcome any extra cost.

    Reaper
     
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    My VE has never seen a tank of anything other than Premium, the cleaner burning fuel helps in a lot of ways that you do not see.

    Cheers.
     

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