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Discussion in 'VZ Holden Commodore (2004 - 2006)' started by jezz736, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. NAVZCALAIS

    NAVZCALAIS New Member

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    Well i just looked up the info on the timing chain, apparently they newer engines in the VZ's and VE's have a thinner chain and it can stretch. In my few years as a mechanic i have never ever heard of a timing chain stretching. So here's the link for the website just check your new engine number with the one's in there and hopefully you won't have any more timing chain issues http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1674154
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Sounds like your car hasn't been serviced properly as mentioned. Did you buy it from a dealer or privately. I'd ask for a written report from the mechanic and then present it to whoever sold you the car. If it's a dealership/LMCT I'd look into your legal options to get some money back. You will have a more difficult time with a private seller.

    As for what to do with your current car?? I'd find a replacement engine such as: VZ ALLOYTEC (SERII) LEO 170 KW CRATE MOTOR (SERIES II) (may not exactly suit your car - you will need to find the exact one). R/R a crate motor will give you piece of mind and change from $6k I would think.

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  3. jezz736

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    Hey thanks again guys havent been on in a while been flat out. So i baught that engine i previously mentioned and its been four weeks now and he still hasnt delivered after he said it'll be here in a week. got it from performanceonline.com.au n e one dealt with these guys? i havent been able to get a hold of him in over a week now and he's not answering. getting pretty anxious at this point, hoping he's not ripping me off
     
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    Mate I havent heard of them and cant even load their website. How did you pay for the engine?
     
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    How does this happen? Seriously, why get screwed over twice? There's been some good advice put forward and yet you decide not to listen to it.

    $6000 would see a crate motor installed in your car, easily. A days work to install, even less if they have a go.

    And how does spending $200 (or less) in towing fee's make it "not worthwhile" to save a couple of thousand dollars? It could have been fixed for way less.
     
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    TrikkBen I'm Back :D

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    Uh Oh.... Spaghetti o
     
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    just by that response i can see you havent properly read this thread or no what your on about.

    I bought a second hand engine (payed for one at least), which i believe was one persons piece of advice, its the advice i took and its clearly backfired up to this point.

    why would i spend 6 grand on a new engine for a car thats 6 years old when an engine with 90000k's on the clock costs a third of that. We're not all rolling in dough like u clearly make out to be.

    It will not cost "200 (or less)" to get it towed elsewhere as it has to be towed 90+k's to Newy. For you to think i would save a couple thousand dollars is rediculous. Holden's a rip off, but not by that much.

    "Why get screwed over twice" are u serious?! like i made a concious decision to get screwed over. :S
     
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    i just tried loading it half hour ago cos i wanted to get some details and i couldnt load it either. hoping its just down for maintenance or some sh*t (wishfull thinking) but im starting to think he's closing down.

    he sent me his bank details but told him i had to pay by credit card since im poor as f*ck at the moment.
     
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    mate it dont look good, that looks dodgy as a 3 day old vindaloo that website
     
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    i had a look at performance online and it seems to have been around for 30 years is this the same place you bought your engine from?
    PerformanceOnline.com.au
    Magill Road, Adelaide, SA 5000
    p: 1300 055066 f: 1300 131133

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    Yeah that's the one, looked reputable to me. Don't know why a company with that many years experience, selling those sorts of products would rip someone off just for a measly 2500 bucks when a lot of the stuff he sells looks like it would go for 10 times that amount.
     
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    if i lost that sort of cash id be going on a roadtrip to see them in person..
     
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    Haha, I've read it, clearly I know more than you because I wouldn't take my car into Holden in the first place. Or give someone that I haven't met $2500 for something I haven't seen.

    You payed for an engine that you didn't see, didn't hear running and didn't know what condition it was in. That right there is a "backfire." You also purchased something from a store with the word "performance" in the name of the business; Therefore costing a fair bit more than anywhere else.

    Why?

    Why would you buy a car that had a ####ed motor in it in the first place..?

    To avoid this situation you are in now. To avoid buying second hand motor, paying for it to be installed, then in 6 months for it to do the same thing as this one has.

    For piece of mind, knowing its a BRAND NEW motor.

    I don't make out I'm rolling in dough, I work ####ing hard for my money and I know everytime you try and "cheap out" on doing ANYTHING in life, it always ends up costing you double in the end.

    I've used tow trucks before, had a car towed from Sydney to the Central Coast. Cost $180. Similar distance.

    You would save a couple of thousand if you took it to another mechanic (second opinion - which was also advice you chose not to take) who might have said there was nothing wrong with your motor in it, and just threw the heads back on as is, or even got them serviced/reseated/new valves.

    First time - YOU took your car to Holden. If you have a little bit of a read around the forum, you would see that very few people actually recommend taking their cars to Holden.

    Second time - YOU payed $2500 to some one you've never met, for a motor that you haven't seen, haven't heard running and basically had no idea if they actually had one at all.
     
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    Your whole little rant is based on the fact that I haven't received this engine I payed for. You wouldn't be saying **** if I got the engine. Suggestions have been made. You make out just because I didn't take the suggestions you would take that I didn't take n e ones and just went off on my own and made my own choice which isn't true.

    It's easy to sit back read all this and just run ur mouth like u woulda done this perfectly with minimal costs and f#ck ups. The fact that ur asking me why I would buy a car with a f##ked engine just proves that to me. U don't know the circumstances and reasoning behind n e thing I've done and I don't need to explain it to u. Fact is I made some choices at times that were inconvenient for me and I did what I thought was best. The fact that this guy stated he offers a 12 month warranty on all his engines seemed pretty harmless to me. I don't have the time or the luxury of cruising the country side checking out every engine that's up for sale.

    I took it to holden cos there's not a lot of choices for mechanics here and i havent been living here very long or no n e one here that knows where a good mechanic is.

    Fact is u don't understand plain and simple. if it satisfies that big head of urs, go to another thread and be useless to them instead
     
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    Well said mate.. Im sure you already feel **** enough as it is without getting berated by others for your decision. I really hope it gets sorted out for you. Maybe someone that lives in the area can pop in there for you. Keep us updated dude.
     
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    Hahaha, seriously? Did you read my posts?

    I only mentioned once that you "might not" get the engine. So for you to say my "whole rant" is based on this assumption, is clearly flawed. If you got the engine, I would still would be saying exactly what I have been saying - that there were quite a few 'smarter' choices you could've made.

    You were the one having a whinge about not having much money, so one would think you would want to be fairly cautious as to how you spend what you do have - ie. With minimal costs/#### ups.

    How do you actually know your motor is not worth repairing, because Holden told you so..?

    I don't know the reasoning or the circumstances behind what you have done, I'm still amazed at how you have come to this point that you are at now.

    Who said to "go cruising the country side checking out every engine that's for sale" ???

    Fact is you know very little about cars, or mechanics, so one would think you would take the advice of the majority.

    And I'll post where ever I feel the need to. Although, thank you for your suggestion.
     

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