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Islamist Extremists must be stopped!

Calaber

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I lost an a close relative on one of the planes that hit the twin towers in New York , we move on but we never forget , and we can forgive .

peace out

Allah Maak .:beer chug:

Forgiving is appropriate if the incident was isolated. Twin Towers was the worst, but it's not the only time that radical Islamists have attacked western nations and the US hasn't been the only target. Think Bali (twice), London, Barcelona, at least two US embassies on the African continent, USS Cole, and closer to home, if reports today are accurate, plans to murder at least one random Australian citizen (probably via head removal for your internet entertainment). Forgivness won't achieve anything with this crowd - they see it as a weakness to be manipulated and exploited for their benefit.

I don't think putting this thread on the jokes forum is appropriate either. You may well believe that the media is over-reacting to "isolated incidents" carried out by a murderous minority, but those incidents are becoming more frequent. World leaders, acting on intelligence gained by better advised people than any of us here, are taking action to tighten security within their respective countries. Over-reaction? Only if you live in a cotton-wool world or you call yourself skydrol. I'm quite concerned about the direction the world is heading and feel better knowing that the pacifism and appeasement that has existed prior to previous major conflicts, isn't present today.
 

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I dont have any issue with the government increasing their monitoring capabilities. if it prevents an attack happening, so be it. a portion of the tax i pay goes to funding those departments and agencies, and it'd be good to see a return on my investment, so to speak.

Good luck to anyone checking up on me, all they'd see is the pages from JC and increasingly shamefull pornography that i look at after drinking on a weekend.
 

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You can't out an entire relegion for the acts of a minority of nutjobs. Unfortunately they do seem to be a quite powerful and dangerous lot but they are still the minority and you can't blame them all for the actions of the few. That said though I have no idea how you would deal with them but atleast arrests and some progress has been made.

Just as a perspective, one of the mufti's or whatever the crap they call themselves claimed that in Australia the "majority" of muslims were peaceful, he thought only a small percentage, maybe 10-15% harbored extremist views. At the last census 476,000 identified as muslim. That means that we just have 47,600 at best to worry about. Now, our entire defence force including the pogos makes up 80,000, each infantry battalion around 1200 men strong (not sure on exact numbers these days). With the raping of the AF from govco's, this means approx 10k battle ready men for frontline duties (probably being over generous based on 1RAR, 2RAR, 3RAR, 6RAR, 5/7 RAR plus SF (SAS and commando).

Now, assuming only 20% of that 10% are a concern, that is still 9,500 nutjobs we need to worry about. I would hardly call them a minority.

Fact is, Islam as a religion is against all odd's of western society and democracy, I ask anyone to show otherwise where an Islamic state is a successful country with good human rights records and peaceful that has equality with all people.

The term Useful Idiot can certainly be thrown around in this country, signs of it in just this thread already.

When we see marches in the street by Muslims, protesting about what these other muslims are doing, I will believe we have no problem, when we see muslims outing their "brothers" for wanting to commit these acts, I may start to feel better, unfortunately, this cannot be done as it against their faith to do this. God help us if Sharia ever makes it way into a western society, it is bad enough there is already signs of it enforced through western Sydney in communities.
 

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There's fktards in all religions.


/end thread before it turns to ****.

The difference being Islam is the only religion in where the followers are told to kill the infidel in the pedophile prophets name. New testament teachings of Christianity state clearly no one is to kill in the prophet or gods name.
 

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Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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If only it was legal to arm oneself in the name of self defence........

To carry one from Minux, Muslims are moving rapidly into western civilisations all around the globe, they however do not integrate where they settle, no, they are quiet secular but are very quick to complain when the local population does not respect their views or practices.

I have always believed in the saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" and when visiting a Muslim country that fact is certainly forced upon westerners (I have no issue with this) however it is not reciprocal when they come to our western countries.

How about we discuss honour killings and the like and see how moderate Islam can really be.
 

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edit. Thought twice about what I posted.
 

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There have been many Christian terrorists throughout history. Everyone knows about the crusades and how they invaded and murdered with aplomb. Then there was the Inquisition that murdered the Cathars (who were just slightly different christians) by the thousands. In our time we have the IRA who murder in the name of the christian God and of course groups like the KKK who claim to be God-fearing christians.

Having said all that, the Bible itself, especially the New Testament, is pretty clear about NOT killing people.

I'm not religious BTW, I learned this stuff in History classes at Uni.

@Immortality - the Muslims took over much of Spain during the Middle Ages and were famous for being very tolerant of the native christians. True story.
 

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There have been many Christian terrorists throughout history. Everyone knows about the crusades and how they invaded and murdered with aplomb. Then there was the Inquisition that murdered the Cathars (who were just slightly different christians) by the thousands. In our time we have the IRA who murder in the name of the christian God and of course groups like the KKK who claim to be God-fearing christians.

Having said all that, the Bible itself, especially the New Testament, is pretty clear about NOT killing people.

I'm not religious BTW, I learned this stuff in History classes at Uni.

@Immortality - the Muslims took over much of Spain during the Middle Ages and were famous for being very tolerant of the native christians. True story.
Yep all true, then we moved out of the dark ages unlike these Muslims.
If I had my way we would have no religion full stop, does more harm than good.
 
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