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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

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Dumpf can pardon himself but that only works for federal prosecution. New York prosecutors have a heap of cases ready to go, he's in the poo
I suppose they're all going to be successful but any law suit Trump starts is BS......... F there's some real indoctrinated people out there.

My facetious comment obviously alludes that all the court cases are BS against Trump.
Not paying tax and minimizing tax are two total different things and you can't get taken to court for minimizing your tax.

Whenever I hear someone get cranky because a big company has a tax return lower than what their opinion expects I know they're a low IQ moron.
 

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I suppose they're all going to be successful but any law suit Trump starts is BS......... F there's some real indoctrinated people out there.

My facetious comment obviously alludes that all the court cases are BS against Trump.
Not paying tax and minimizing tax are two total different things and you can't get taken to court for minimizing your tax.

Whenever I hear someone get cranky because a big company has a tax return lower than what their opinion expects I know they're a low IQ moron.
Is it possible you are not taking into account the fact that the political and economic system, is rigged.
Rigged by the ruling elites, for the ruling elites. Always has been and still is to this day.

Our banking Royal Commission is just ONE recent example, our big banks were exposed for the criminals that they are, yet not a single CEO or Director has seen the inside of a courtroom, in fact, the CEO's get to walk away with 10's of millions of $$ in their pockets.

Our State and Federal politicians are bought and sold by big corporations. Full stop.

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Trump has many enemies. He walks over (or tries too) anyone who gets in his way.
Trump is a childish narcissist with delusions of grandeur....and a hypocrite.
 
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Denise Brailey is a criminologist, she wanted to give evidence at our banking royal commission but was denied.
Because they know she has too much dirt on our bankers.


 

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Is it possible you are not taking into account the fact that the political and economic system, is rigged.
Rigged by the ruling elites, for the ruling elites. Always has been and still is to this day.

Our banking Royal Commission is just ONE recent example, our big banks were exposed for the criminals that they are, yet not a single CEO or Director has seen the inside of a courtroom, in fact, the CEO's get to walk away with 10's of millions of $$ in their pockets.

Our State and Federal politicians are bought and sold by big corporations. Full stop.

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Trump has many enemies. He walks over (or tries too) anyone who gets in his way.
Trump is a childish narcissist with delusions of grandeur....and a hypocrite.
I've never heard a wealthy person complain about the system. Maybe it's just because you're not rich you're all about how the "rich elite" are criminals. I'm not rich and I say good on them I would do the same thing if I was rich.
 

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The key difference is whether its evasion or avoision. One is illegal, the other is not.

In my previous job, we could apply for government tax credits for R&D projects. The terminology was loose (based on levels of uncertainty in an outcome), so there was huge work to maximise the claims. There were certainly claims made that were not in the "spirit" of the rules, but didn't breach them. Its not tax evasion, only avoidance, but is it morally right?
 

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The law has nothing to do with morality. Doing the lawful thing is often not doing the right thing.

On the Denise Bailey thing, she wasn't allowed to testify because she was not qualified to in that hearing. However, questions and evidence were presented on her behalf by the legal team.
 

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I've never heard a wealthy person complain about the system. Maybe it's just because you're not rich you're all about how the "rich elite" are criminals. I'm not rich and I say good on them I would do the same thing if I was rich.
You are twisting my comments and being dismissive of the facts.
Your response is hollow words without meaning....
The fact being, the 'system' is corrupt.
My commentary of the 'big picture' has zero to do with my personal financial situation.

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If you read any business news today, I think you will find that there are some wealthy individuals currently complaining and it has a lot to do with China.
In addition, you won't usually hear the CEO's and directors of big corporations complain, their LOBBY GROUPS do all that work for them....ie: The Property Council of Australia, as one example.

Did you know that our current PM Scott Morrison, before entering politics, was National policy and research manager for the Property Council of Australia.

Are you aware the PCoA is a shop front (influential and extremely well funded lobby group) for a multi-multi billion dollar corporate cartel.

Did you know ex QLD Premier Anna Bligh is now the CEO of the Australian Banking Association?

You're welcome ;)
 

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The law has nothing to do with morality. Doing the lawful thing is often not doing the right thing.

On the Denise Bailey thing, she wasn't allowed to testify because she was not qualified to in that hearing. However, questions and evidence were presented on her behalf by the legal team.
On the first sentence, I agree.

Regards your follow up comment, do you have a reliable reference that she was denied due to lack of qualifications?
Because Denise Brailey has university degrees in Law, Politics and Criminology.
One would think that she is adequately qualified to give evidence.

You don't get to have direct access and private meetings with Treasury officials, Parliamentarians, APRA officials and ASIC officials, big bank CEO's, unless you are somebody.
 
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