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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

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We generally move towards greater technology. Coal power is so 19th century. We are seeing growth in installation, and indeed in the renewable power sector there are more people employed well-to-wheel than in the fossil power sector (saw this somewhere, will have a dig about for statistic).

In essence...we need to change the way we do things. With 7 billion on this rock, even discounting global warming/climate change, Earth is under stress. Deforestation, depleted fish supplies, salinity, dwindling oil supplies in the future, how will we get to the projected 9-10 billion without calamity? Just hope the problem goes away?? We can either pay for a little bit now and have a smooth economic transition or we could put it off until its essentially life or death and there may not be a transition.
 

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We generally move towards greater technology. Coal power is so 19th century. We are seeing growth in installation, and indeed in the renewable power sector there are more people employed well-to-wheel than in the fossil power sector (saw this somewhere, will have a dig about for statistic).

In essence...we need to change the way we do things. With 7 billion on this rock, even discounting global warming/climate change, Earth is under stress. Deforestation, depleted fish supplies, salinity, dwindling oil supplies in the future, how will we get to the projected 9-10 billion without calamity? Just hope the problem goes away?? We can either pay for a little bit now and have a smooth economic transition or we could put it off until its essentially life or death and there may not be a transition.

The fundamental problem with the carbon tax is that it is nothing more than a wealth redistribution scheme that does not actually do anything to achieving it's stated objective. My electricity bill has near doubled over the last few years whilst only using about 15% more kWh of juice. The alp are at pains to point out that most of the increase is from the electricity retailers. As a proportion thus far it is the case (electricity prices have been sharply trending up for several years, well before the carbon tax was introduced). So, we already have a big dis-intensive to use mains power - why do we need another one? The only reason I can think of is wealth redistribution that the left are very well known for. Why does my family only deserve $3 in compensation - yep that's right $3 per year! yet others deserve well over 100% compensation? If that's not wealth redistribution what is?

Note to Gillard & co - at least have the balls to call it what it is.

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Anyone watch(ing) the doco "Why Poverty: Stealing Africa" tonight? Anyone that watched still thinking super profits tax is a bad idea? You can watch if you didn't on abc iview. This is what we compete with. This is how Gina would like to treat Au.
 

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Before anybody says anything - this isn't a lie. It's just further evidence of out and out incompetence of this government in making stupid promises that were never likely to be able to be delivered. FFS - only a month ago our PM claimed everything was fine and the surplus was on track :bang:. Lets be clear here, **NOTHING** of consequence has changed for the worse in the last month, matter of fact with the Greek credit rating actually being raised recently, and America looking like a deal to avert their "fiscal cliff" being likely, one could argue that the outlook has improved if anything.

Labor has choked on a surplus of promises

Now discuss :)

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Reaper, it's only a couple of weeks ago Penny Wong was on Q & A telling everyone how Labor was on track to deliver that promise. They never had any intention of delivering a surplus budget.
 

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No. They fully intended delivering a budget however were in self denial about their chances. For the record, I don't believe either party could have delivered a surplus this year. You have to remember they were turning around a $40bill deficit last year. I would be happy with another 3 or so deficits if the climate stays similar to now, but what is important that the number is trending towards surplus year on year. What that means is when fortunes improve, any spike is going to be in the upwards direction.

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No. They fully intended delivering a budget however were in self denial about their chances.
I respect your opinion I just don't agree with it. When a gov't consistently increases the debt ceiling they cannot have any intention of delivering a surplus. It was a cheap political exercise designed to dupe the voting public.
 

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Nova Peris Chosen As Senate candidate For Labor in 2013 Election

Wow, Gillard is a ruthless #### who will even assasinate members of her own party to try and stay in power.

Oh wait, we already knew that. Carry on.

Whilst I would almost always pick ALP over LNP due to ideology/philosophical reasons, this is quite disgusting. Bob Carr was reasonable in that he filled a vacant spot; however, knifing a democratically elected representative to put someone in with no background due to an aura is just plain sth american. Disgraceful.

That being said the LNP does it from time to time, just not that obvious...our local nationals member met a similar fate. We had a local member in Orange (Russell Turner) who was politely asked to retire so that one Andrew Gee could be groomed, and he won our very very safe nationals seat...well that was a bum steer. Turner got things done (sort of), Gee is a 100% oxygen thief.
 

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Hmmm..... Celebrety ALP success stories that have worked???

Maxine McKew - Nope
Justin Madden (Vic) - Epic fail
Peter Garrett - Bwahahahahahahahaa

I could go on.....

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