JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

I do not know if you guys get any coverage of this. Seen is believing, a 10 min bycicle ride somewhere in California. Yes, is a Sh¡t Hole, homeless population continues to grow.

 

and you can see the homes of the more affluent in the background , makes the housing crisis in NZ seem minor looking at that .

 

Can i pick a different drugged out hippies song to agree with?

Of course not.

Didnt suggest anything. Domestic crime is a different issue to what we're discussing in this point.I asked if you took steps to secure your property and to vet who you allowed into it.
You agreed on both points. You think that control of the flow of people is important. You need to get some consistency in your opinion.

It's not a bandaid fix to all of their problems. It's there to fix the problem at hand.

Oh look, a deflection. So you dont have a problem with the rape of young women? Is that why you didnt bother to reply to that point?

 

That was a gag. Someone decided to make the signs on some highways. Nevertheless, that is proof of how the population feels.

For the people that does not know. The Sanctuary Cities are a depot for "ILLEGAL" Inmigrants driven by Federal Gov money (funding). Instead of facing deportation, the illegal inmigrants they are let loose on to the so called Sanctuary Cities. Total BS... thanks Obummer.

 

On the houses on the background. There is a good chance that half of the owners are slaved with debt. What people are doing is taking Home Equity Loans, using their homes as ATMs on the fake Real Estate Market (bubble).

 

Oh yeah. I totally understand that it was done as a joke. Much like the state of California.

It's lost tbh and needs to be jettisoned and towed out to sea.

 

Ref that film clip. No, we don't get to see that California here.
Some of the less than acceptable Aboriginal communities don't look like that, and we are continually being made to feel guilty about their living conditions. If they did look like that, somebody in the Govt, or local Aboriginal Land Council would get their arse kicked from Brisbane to Broome.

 

Fark me you sure put strange interpretations on statements. This issue no longer has any point to it and I have better things to do than debate ad infinitum with someone who holds such depressing views about the world.

 

Well nitro im I'm glad im not living your life. Hate to say it but it must be a pretty lonely and miserable life. Where as the life i live in and the people around me help me to live my life with hope and a future. One that is full of great things. A life where I can make a positive difference to 100s of people every year. I love my job and i must be one of the few people who have a great job. I have very little money but don't care because even with the vey little bit i have, i still have everything i want. I am looking forward to the next 40 years of my life too. I reckon it will be even better than my last 46 years. I live in a great state Tasmania and i love my country Australia. Might add that i really only started to live life when i was around 23 -24. That was the time i became religious. I know you say Jesus hasn't changed the world but im sure glad he changed my world a life of drugs, booze and wayward women. One where I was ready to stop living. One where I tried to check out early yet lived. Guess you are yet to hit rock bottom because from the time i did the only way for me has been up.

 

How can i interpret your posts any other way. (please click to expand text quotes for ref)

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So wealthy powerful leaders who drag our asses into endless wars fueled by greed, ego, lies and deceit, causing widespread death, destruction and misery, and bail out corrupt greedy bankers who bankrupted innocent investors, are sensible, sane, honest and ethical, but a person who simply wants to open deep and serious dialogue about the human condition and what we might do to make real fundamental change, has questionable mental health.

2000 years later....



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All of us are sleepwalking through this world, isn't it time to wake up?



2000 years later...

 

Speak for yourself Nitro. But people i meet daily would say i have changed their lives for the better.

 

Nitro there's a well known saying, it say,s, if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem...... which one are you?

 

Losh...Most of my posts in this thread are regarding the 'big picture'.

How do you know I don't help people at my 'local level'?
Perhaps I even do it without being remunerated...

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I don't that's why I asked the question.

 

BTW my response was in light of this post. I don't consider myself sleep walking through the world. But it appears that you yourself are saying you are????

 

yeah well, I didn't consider it a legitimate question.
In other words, it was rhetorical, with overtones of self righteousness designed to ridicule.
Based on yours and others previous comments, i don't believe you had a genuine interest in knowing the answer.

Maybe I should pull the pin here and go find some political/philosophical forum instead, clearly everyone here is most unhappy with my passionate ramblings.

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By now it should be apparent that you alone in this thread see the world as you do. We all see things we don't like but because we are ordinary, mortal folk, we don't see the need to change the world. We make decisions and act to deal with life's follies and faults that directly affect us as best we can and hope that others do the same. For the really big issues, well, that's what we pay politicians and defence personnel to deal with.

The greatest minds and achievers in history recognised many things that needed to change but they set themselves the goal of addressing the issues they knew they could. None of them wanted to change the world. Perhaps none if them saw that the whole world needed changing as you do.

The scepticism you have encountered from me and others here is because, although you are lucid and clearly intelligent, as I mentioned before, something is seriously wrong with an individual who sees so much wrong, so little right about today's world and claims that such drastic and utterly improbable solutions as changing mankind's mindset is required to rectify those problems, has a problem within themselves.

Hyde Park in London and the Sydney Domain in years gone by had Speakers Corners, where people could stand on soapboxes and speak to whomever listened. About Doomsday, Christ reappearing or whatever floated their boat. Your oratory in this thread seems to be of that ilk.

 

Nitro, In everything you say and what you are putting forward continues to just flat out ignore human nature, instincts and motivations. Nothing you have put forward will ever work because you complete ignore and rule out these driving factors. Until you come up with a realistic scenario that takes these into account then yes your idea its purely a pipe dream and will always be.