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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Skydrol

    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    Well, oil is the cheapest way given the pressent tech. However, we all know about Oil Companies hoarding energy efficient tech, that is true, not so sure. One thing is true, takes Energy to create Energy. So there is no free lunch in the Universe. Oil and is proven, is NOT a fosil fuel, that was a theory. The Earth itself makes the oil. That is why they keep finding oil deposits all over the planet. It just takes time to produce. I remember way back about the Peak Oil Scare, we were supposed to be "Out of Fuel" by the year 2000
     
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    Hydrogen and oxygen are good at making things go boom carbon does not go boom ... when the USA dropped the bomb on japan it was a hydrogen bomb not a petrol bomb ... NASA rockets ran on liquid oxygen (lox) ... central banks stack gold not $100 bills ... i wonder how much gold the saudis are hoarding cos they list only a piddly 323 tonnes but why would anyone trust them to tell the truth ...
     
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    Well, about NASA rockets, they are pretty crappy. The Russian, sure have the thing right. Even NASA use their Rockets to send stuff to the ISS.

    When the Obummer admin placed sanctions on Russia, they created some trouble in the MIC ranks.

    https://spacenews.com/air-force-hop...strategy-to-phase-out-russian-rocket-engines/

    The political battle over the next-generation evolved expendable launch vehicle started about three years ago when Congress set a deadline for the Air Force to stop funding the Russian RD-180 heavy rocket engine.

    On the Saudi Gold.
    They have whatever they have stashed on other banks. Will see how that pans out, good luck with that. Venezuela tried to get theirs from England, created some heartburn.

    “The Bank of England’s decision to deny Maduro officials’ withdrawal request comes after top U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Michael Pompeo and National Security Adviser John Bolton, lobbied their U.K. counterparts to help cut off the regime from its overseas assets, according to one of the people, who asked not to be identified.”

    https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/r...ustody-contract-with-venezuelas-central-bank/

    So if is a Barbarous worthless relic (according to banks), why the pushback?
     
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    Yeah .. if it is a barbarous relic why do central banks stack it .... it is "strange" that nations let banks in other countries store their gold ... unless gold is the actual name of the game ... while the peasants get to use paper ...
     
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    The main reason that I know why they stash their gold on other banks is security. In case some happens all their gold is not stolen. Another is Leasing, strange enough, there is such thing as Gold Leases. Is a long explanation, but this guy does a decent job.

    https://livinginabubbleblog.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/gold-leasing-by-central-banks-explained

    During the Spanish Civil War, the Socialist Gov that Franco was trying to overthrow, end up giving the Gold Reserves to Russia (Stalin) for safekeeping. The Ruskies gave them in return a boat load of used up armament. When Franco took over, Spain's treasury was empty. Like anybody would, asked the Russians for Spain's gold, got Crickets Chirping instead. To fill the treasury back up, Franco and de Gaulle used the redeemable power of the USD in Gold. So they did, compound the problem with the Vietnam War and the Currency Supply exceeded its Gold backing. Manipulated Fluctuations on the Gold Price Markets on the late 60s was used an excuse to get rid of the Breton Woods Accord Gold Standard. Very smart move to crank the Printing Press without any fiscal responsobility. From then forward, Oil is the New Gold.
     
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    Yes they say the idea is security ... hows it working for them when the bank wont give it back ... no i think there is a different reason ... most countries would be able to store their gold securely if not simply hide it within its borders ... after all they say all the above ground gold in existence will fit into an olympic size swimming pool and that is not that big .... its more likely the movement of gold between central banks has more to do with the owners than the countries ... our political treasurer Peter Costello sold "Australias" gold in the 90s but i dont he as much sold it as he rather "gave" it to QEII ...
     
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    Very good interview, 16 min long on some topics.

     
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    Skydrol how true is this?

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    We all know. The problem is the left are blind fanatic followers of the party. Does not matter who the candidate is, they want the party to win. Each elections are a Superbowl, some sort of World Cup between Reds Vs Blues. In the US, there is no such thing as a 2 party system. There are over 20 different ones. Is a Duopoly of the same, if any other party get some traction, the media refuse to give any exposure or they get intimidated. Is not the 1st time that some candidates from a 3rd party gave up because accidents happens. Ross Perrot was the last one that had some media exposure, participatred on debates, dropped out of the race due to "family" matters.
     
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    Here is an interesting interview from Sarah Westall, lots of topics, from Geopolitics, Economics (oil, trade, etc...) Race, Education (comparing West/East), Environment (geo-engineering), Technology, Human Trafficking, etc...

    Part 1


    Part 2
     
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    Guys, take the time and watch this, see how applies to Oz. I can vouch for what he is talking about the Electric Scooters and Bicycles nuisance. However, do not want understand what is going on, do not want to learn, skip it.

    Part 1


    Part 2
     
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    Terrible how Chinese technology sends information back, exposing all our secrets, same as Apple :)
     
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    Some from the news in the US.



    Do you guys are having similar issues on the big cities? On our case, is happening very heavily on the cities that always seens to vote Democrat (Socialists).
     
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    First I would not see your Democrat party as being Socialist or even close. You would be well aware of tweedledum, tweedledee analogy
    that said of your Republican and Democrat parties. The main parties in Australia are the Liberal and National who are in office and the Labor
    party. The Liberal and National parties are loosely referred to as centre right and Labor loosely referred to as centre left. Even Labor could
    not be called Socialist. Within these parties as with all political parties their are those who would comfortably fit in each others party and
    those to the left and right of their respective parties.
    There are homeless people in Australia but certainly not to the same extent that you have in your country. They would be predominately
    in the poor areas of town that would be more likely to be in Labor areas.
    I think it is more likely in this country for unemployed people to pick up an unemployed benefit than yours. Like your country we have people
    who are drug dependent so having secure housing and the ability to hold down a job is always going to be a problem.
     
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    Look closer and what listen on what they preach. They always been pro War, Big Gov and Social-All. Now days, they do not even bother hidding it like they used to.


    Anyway, posted that as away of comparing the US situation with Oz and see if there is an equal condition or different.
     
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    The definition of a party is "stupid fun things" ... political party is called a "party" for a reason ... the word is not an accident ...
     
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    How is called in Germany, Christian Democratic Union? Now days you will not see a People's Socialist Party with a Red Flag, members wearing some sort of Military drag, that is all movie crap. Branding is important and as long they have a "cute" name, they can be whatever they want to be. Spain has a good one "Unidos Podemos" (United We Can), cannot be any more "Democratic Leftists" than that. In a Socialist Nation you can choose your poison or take it by force (Democracy or Dictatorship).
     
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    Here is some fun to watch. Everybody knows Breaking Bad. Max and Stacy went to Alburquerque in New Mexico and did a small tour. Also, they talk about the economy. The Candy Lady, the one that created the "Blue Meth" prop for the show, is saying how the Dems are hardcore Leftist. Cannot say it any better.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/gonzo/451119-albuquerque-obamacare-anti-hero/
     
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    If you view your Democrats as being hard core left do you see them as being similar to the politics of Cuba or Venezuela?
    Our political system has some similarities to your system in that we have elections every three years. In other ways we
    are poles apart. We do not have a president so no presidential elections. No one could do what Trump is doing by calling
    a national emergency to get his Mexican border wall built. Don't get me wrong because I believe he has done well with his
    decision to pull troops out of Syria and single handed has been able to diffuse the situation with North Korea.
    I think that the only similarities we have politically are the Greens. They seem to be the same the whole world over. Like
    all the countries that I know of they are in the minority and look likely to stay that way.
    One of the glaring differences between our countries are gun laws. Apart from the police who are armed I can not remember
    the last time I saw a gun. It is over fifty years since I fired a rifle and that was when I was in the army. We apart from the
    crooks seem to get along fine without them.
    You did surprise me when you referred to The democrats as being pro war. Certainly they were in office during the Korean
    and the Vietnam war and of course Syria. I wonder if these wars would still have occurred if the Republicans were in. The
    Republicans certainly were in office for the invasion of Grenada and Iraq (twice). Is there any difference in that respect?
     
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    Similar to Cuba and Venezuela, yes indeed. Search for some called the "Green New Deal", is absurd, full of Socialists nonsense.

    Yes, they are the leftists in a huge way. You can search all this, is public and free information. The Dem party was formed by Slave Owners, the KKK is what was used to be called Southern Democtats. See which Presidents were in power and from what Party during WW1/2, Korea and Vietnam. NATO was formed under Truman (Dem) and the Korean war. Eisenhower (Rep) ended. FDR served the longest term of any pressie before and during WW2, Truman his Vice Pressident... get off one war and started another that lasted until the present time. Now, within 2 years in office, Trump got to defuse that 70+ year mess.

    The only Dem that refused to go to Viet Nam and wanted to remove the Fed Reserve was shot. Interesting enough, Nixon (Rep) ended the Viet Nam war. From there up to now, a group called Neo Cons (Neo Conservatives) along with the Dems, created all these never ending conflicts. Reagan was shot and from there forward, took a backseat, Bush Sr was pretty much in control. So you know the rest of Neo Cons from there forward.

    I have way more to say but will be a long history lesson.

    Back to the Dems are Leftists.

    Pressident Johnson admin(Dems), wanted to generate a bigger voter count. They created a myrad of Social programs, signed the Civil Rights Act. That is the turning point, when the Minority, quit voting Rep for Dem. From there, it became the "Minority" party. Look for "The Great Society", a follow up of FDR "New Deal", another pro banking Socialist.

    Also, they are in bed with the Banking Industry. Each time they pass some, is always in favor to the banks. Like Obama did that bailed out the Banks (tax payer expense) and other industries that also benefit the Unions. The Unions are all Dem, they are huge campaing contributors. All the North Eastern states are full of Banking and Unions, they are the Dems stronghold. Also, they are the Weapon manufactures. Aerospace industries cannot survive without the Military Budget, where they are all located, all Dem states. What about Military Shipyards, also heavy Dem states.

    Now days, they do not even bother to cover their Leftists view, is all in the open.

    Here is another weird law the Dems in New York passed. Is about abortions, they can kill a baby in delivery. You can read it is all searchable, also videos on how they Cheered when Governor Cuomo signed it.

    Funny thing is, the Richest indivuduals are Dems, the entire Holliwood Artists community are Dem. Jeff Besos from Amazon, the Richest man in the world is a Dem, Bill Gates is another one.


    People like this have a huge influence in the world, more so with all the wealth to back them up.
     
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