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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Skydrol

    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    Saul Alinsky’s dedication to his own book:

    “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer

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    We have a federal election coming up in May. A lot of the bad column is happening here as I imagine
    that's what happens in the USA during an election. Play the person not the ball.
     
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    Here is an interesting twist on Venezuela.

     
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    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    Best words of wisdom, can be applied to anything in life. Just like Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" a book written about the 5th century BC. Very good read.

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    Outstanding explanation on Venezuela and Socialism. Is exactly what I say on why Venezuela is a shlt show.

     
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    Branding is important. As long you place the word Democra**** somwhere in the name is ok.

    Is like Vaseline before the Butt Hurt.

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    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    Democratic socialism? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? We're about to end up with the most socialist government in many years and I can't see much democracy resulting.
     
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    Is not.

    Socialism is an Economic system, Democracy is a Political system. In the socialist world is the right to choose your poison. The right to vote for Dictator 1 or 2, still a despot.
     
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    For years we have had this neo liberal type of government by both side of politics. Sell off all of our
    public owned company's to private ownership and everybody will be better off. Fact of it is that the
    rich have got richer and we have an ever increasing number of poor.
    Look at the recent royal commission into the banks and the rorts that have been going on for years.
    If your common worker did this sort of thing he would be in jail for years. Have a look at the banks
    super schemes and see how much worse they perform than the industry schemes and ask yourself
    how could this happen. Weren't they supposed to be the clever ones with money?
    Labor to their credit had been pushing for a royal commission for quite some time. Morrison voted
    26 times against holding it. Just looking after his mates.
    Australia has never had a socialist government, at best social democracy which is a different kettle
    of fish. Social democracy has given us things like the old age pension and holidays.
    The Liberal and to a lesser extent Labor have always looked after the top end of town. The idea
    that if the rich are doing well then they will pay their workers accordingly. This is a fallacy and
    will not change under either party.
    Rob a bank and you will go to jail. Increasingly companies are going broke owing their workers
    hundreds of thousands of dollars in unpaid wages and superannuation and getting away with it
    by going bankrupt.
    I don't care what you call it but we need a fairer system.
     
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    The merge of Corporate and State powers is Fascism, is not Capitalism by a long shot. The rich get richer by buying politicians to kill competition. Yes is a free state but if you are not well connected, you are going nowhere.

    Is possible to have a Democracy with a Communist, Socialist, Fascist and Capitalist system. Democracy in simple terms is the Rule of the Mob.

    The problem with Socialism is that solely depends of Wealth Extraction to fund the programs. Venezuela for example, depended heavily on the Oil Sales. As soon the oil went to dirt bottom prices, the Automated Cash Machine went belly up. Their only choice is to print more currency, items/services act like a sponge and that is how hyperinflation came from.

    Banks love Socialism, as long there is productive people to keep them on the Debt Hook and take othe productive people's wealth they are in. The Brexit is just a Banking game. If the UK leave their ECB Banking system is going to take a huge hit. They can still making trade deals, but that stupid Parlliament is rotted with bankers.

    Currency lose purchasing power over time, the more is printed the less value has. Wages does not keep with inflation. Is a double whammy, you get taxed and each time you get paid the Currency lose value. Kind of a Double Taxation.

    Honestly, we, as the whole planet, we can do just fine without the Central Banking system.

    The contagion is globlal.

    By the way, the USA is NOT a Democracy, is a Republic with Self Governed States. What is now, is a quagmire driven by a Central Banking System.
     
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    Rosengard, a troubled, immigrant-dominated neighborhood, has gained notoriety due to a spike in violent crime recorded in recent years. Gun violence, armed robberies, and other offenses seem to have become commonplace there, according to media reports. The district, plagued by unemployment and poverty, has previously appeared on a list of Sweden’s ‘vulnerable areas’, which some media and local politicians refer to as ‘no-go zones’.



    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...acked-ups-halts-deliveries-swedish-no-go-zone
     
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    Afghanistan, the only place safer than Swedistan.
     
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    Afghanistan, the land of Lithium and Poppy Fields, someone got to protect the assets ;-)
     
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    Tight firearms control.


    Of note, gun ownership in New Zealand is categorized as "restrictive" - as civilians are not allowed to possess handguns, military-style semi-automatic weapons or fully automatic weapons without a permit and a relevant firearm license endorsement.


    How this bloke got this rifle? Funny thing is, the weapon of choice of these loonies.


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    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...0-dead-or-wounded-after-gunman-opens-fire-new
     
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    it's been a sad day in NZ , we've joined the list of countries to affected by terrorist action , the swift arrest of the people involved is a credit to our law enforcement officers , these lowlifes responsible can expect our uttermost disdain for their actions , to open fire on people at weekly prayer , be it Muslim , Christian , Jewish , is frankly disgusting , our PM is to fly to Christchurch I believe today , you could see and hear the sadness , and anger in her eyes and voice at last nights press conference, our defense force has sent troops down and extra police have been deployed also , we can only hope that no copycat action happens here , I'm truly at a loss of words , what was once a safe haven for immigrants and refugees is no longer for New Zealand . Sad and angry beyond words and belief .
     
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    New Zealand has had some advantages that other countries have not had. It's isolation is one. The right to bears arms is not there. It is not
    as easy to get a rifle or gun legally. There are no supermarket gun shops. Sure like other countries there are gangs but New Zealand's gangs
    are more like boy scouts. The attitude has always it won't happen here. The prime minister has spoken of changes to the gun laws. I don't
    know what she has in mind but would be surprised if anything can be done to stop the fanatics obtaining weapons. The nutter they have
    spoken about the most is an Australian. That he is Australian is irrelevant as all countries have those who are twisted and deranged.
    This is the first mass murder in New Zealand for many years and certainly the first based on religious grounds. My heart goes out to those
    who have lost love ones. They will surely be thinking that they made the wrong decision to come To New Zealand and who could blame
    them for that.
     
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    According to the New Zealand Herald the accused smirked as he faced court this morning.
    I hope they are able to remove it for him.
     
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    For years Aussies and Kiwis have been able to but s*** on each other in a friendly banter way …..… eg 'the under-arm incident' for which we have still not been forgiven.
    This is way different, and will never be forgotten, or forgiven.
    From media reports about his 'manifesto', apparently this nutter, although Australian, does not identify as an Australian, and does not seem to have any respect for Australia, as a nation, or its citizens.
    At the moment, I am ashamed to be associated in any way with this … whatever you want to describe it as.
    I hope that, in the future, I will still be welcomed in NZ as a friend and tourist.
     
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