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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. c2105026

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    Left wing arrogance

    - lost brexit
    - lost 2016 POTUS
    - lost the opportunity to have Trump impeached with Muller report
    - lost this election
    - will lose 2020 POTUS election if they keep cannibalising themselves.

    Joe Biden? **** me with a rubber hose. He’s too much of a nice guy. You need someone who can meet with Trump at his level.

    In the gutter....

    As many on the left feel they are naturally on the winning side of history, they don’t feel the need to interact with others on a rational, practical level. Any disagreement is written off as racism, sexism, homophobia and/or greed.
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Interesting reading here https://www.news.com.au/technology/...bS_sMFFl5L2GJ5VsCsTox8MDN5dwJYyK52Bo2ZwCT8WAs.

    Either way, I think Shorten is toast. Bowen must be on very very thin ice. Don't see how leadership moving further to the left is going to work for the ALP which doesn't bode well for Plibersek and Wrong.
     
  3. mwb235

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    And wrong the latter is too! She's just a sore loser like all those on the Labor left. Labor's climate change policy would have bankrupted this country while big ol' polluting China laughed at us trying to reduce our HUGE 1% of world emissions while they don't give two figs, keep printing money and buy up everything across the world be it property, military hardware, countries, or political favour. Australia we just dodged a bullet tonight...
     
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    Is Aussie's time so I do not want to make an US thing. But will say this much...

    The US is run by a group that has a duopoly of the same political party. Each other continues the same crap the other left behind. The people that knows feel helpless, the other are just plain ignorant.

    The only time an "Independant" that really talks to the people in terms they can understand is Trump. We are all fed up with the so called "Suave Eloquent" crap politicians that talks a lot of Bullsh¡t without saying a fücking word. What do you want, someone of action or some that looks pretty?

    We had nothing to loose if you see the line-up for the 2016 Elecctions.

    The world is a business and what is need it is Business Individual, not a blood sucking ass kissing Lawyer.

    The Muller sh¡tshow was/is a Mop Up operation that dates way back to 2014 (and more). Is actually, the political weaponization of the Gov Co to destroy the opposition. The US under the bonnet is nothing more than a Police State with a Fascist Olygarchy. The scandal is so massive that even encompass the UK, AU, CA and NZ. The CIA and the FBI are so incompetent that botched the entire operation and now they are eating each other up. The Russians colluded with the Dems, all they did was to dump some sh¡tty rumors and watch these idiots selfdestruct.

    As far Biden, watch that cat. He and his son are neck deep in the Ukraine sh¡tshow. Talk about colluding to rig the Ukrainian Gov and place the puppet Petro Poroshenko and place his son as one of the Directors of Burisma, an Ukranian natural gas company owned by Mr. Zlochevsky.

    The mess is huge and not even the anti Trump, Jeff Besos-Amazon own NY Times cannot ignore.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.html
     
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    My fellow Australians
    Well done you have once again failed Australia
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    WTF???? You just did :rolleyes:

    Many would say dodged a huge bullet. Shortens plans were simply un-deliverable and would have sent us into a huge recession trying.
     
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    And said that much and nothing more ;)
     
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    Good to have you back in the arena mate.
    I reckon there were quite a few losers last night, apart from Labor and the Greens. They were
    1. Tony Abbott, obviously
    2. Getup
    3. Turnbull
    4. His son
    5. All the cretins who conspired using underhand and sometimes violent tactics to discourage or frighten Coalition supporters.
    6. The militant unions who would have been sweating on a Labor win to start a fresh round of hard-line industrial action to extract unaffordable concessions, and finally...
    7. Shorten. Big time. And now he too becomes Neville Nobody on the losing team. It would be nice if that arrogant grub Bowen would step down and take that arrogant Wong with him.
     
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    The Labor party lost the election in Queensland. The Liberal party coming out supporting the building of the Adani mine was the reason. Shorten was trying to have a quid each way and Bob Browns convoy was the nail in the coffin. Whether or not the construction of Adani provides these jobs remains to be seen. Some of these types of jobs are fly in fly out and will not hire local labour. Once the mine is up and running it is likely to be highly automated. In West Australia they are already have automated trucks and with this being a newer mine it is quite likely to have fewer jobs.
    I think Shorten was an asset to the Liberals, he was just the wrong sort of person to be a leader. He did the right thing by standing down, next step wait a little while and resign from parliament. I hope they pick Tanya Plibersek as their new leader, I believe she will make a good leader.
     
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    +1. She's much better than Albanese, he is a hard-headed a---hole.
     
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    Yup. Bill tried to have a dip each way depending on who he was talking to at the time.

    Oh god no. Plibersek will be nothing more than Shorten with lipstick. This drug dealers wife (100% fact) is even more the socialist than Shorten tried to be. Albo is from the left too but compared to the drug dealers mole - I'd choose him every day of the week. Really, I don't see a good option from any of them IMO.

    Any other candidates to consider?
     
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    Shorten couldn't even spell socialist let alone be one. I was on the receiving end of some of the sweetheart deals that were done by the AWU while he was their national secretary. They even had their own employment agency that saw to it that we received less than those on the main contract. If that's not being a friend of the employer then I don't know what is. He is very much to the right wing of the Labor party. It has always bewildered me as why to those of his ilk aren't in the Liberal party.
     
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    Who is there left now on the labor right? Probably no-one who'll run i guess.
     
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    Yeah I have heard many stories of him selling out those he purported to represent in the union days.

    That said - for a so called right winger, his platform was about as socialistic I have seen in Australian politics in a very long time.
     
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    Shorten never won the popularity of the public. He was seen as deceptive and untrustworthy. His role in the Rudd and Gillard killings showed him for what he was and even though no legal action ensued from the Royal Commission, his deals with the unions to the detriment of employees only reinforced his negative image. I think too that his allegiance to the union movement, particularly the CFMMEU, was a strong negative. People might have wanted a Labor government, they just didn't want him as PM.

    As for Plybersek, I think she is far too left wing to help Labor mend it's bridges after this debacle. She has strongly supported the party's policies leading up to the election and would have to take a big rethink on most of them which might be a bridge too far. I don't think she'd be a good leader because she's just too far left.
     
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    My thoughts are that Labor will lose more credibility if they elect Albanese as leader.
    Labor have been pushing the gender equality ( read female preference ) for a long time. Plibersek has been deputy for how long ? And they are now going to promote a man as leader over her ?
    Can’t happen. The feminazi media would have a field day with that, and Labor will lose more votes to Greens/Animal Justice/Raving Looney Party in next election.

    I am looking forward to another round of political party infighting, backstabbing, accusations of fault and responsibility, all in the name of party unity and solidarity.
     
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    Hadn't thought of him becoming prime minister of Australia. They will most probably pick a local.
     
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    I bet ol' Vlad is enjoying the sh¡t show :D
     
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    Good point mate. Yes, the equality bit is a problem.
     
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