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Known Power gain from a VCM Suite tune ??

Discussion in 'VZ Holden Commodore (2004 - 2006)' started by impulsive, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. impulsive

    impulsive Alloytec Racing

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    does anyone know the power gains on a VCM suite tune for a VZ SV6, looking to get a tune shortly. Curious to see what ill roughly get out of it!
     
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    andyman The Only 6sp VZ Wagon

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    i heard 200fwkw is easy, anyone confirm?
     
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    impulsesv6 Alloytec Garage

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    varies from tuner to tuner,

    find one that is familiar with the software and is willing to spend the time tuning the car.
    find a tuner that has track results to back their dyno up, a dyno is just a tuning tool
     
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    Dyno results show more to a car then 400m straight line run ever will. a dyno removes far more facts and last i checked most drives i go for are longer then 400m and aren't usually full throttle all the way to the end.
     
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    impulsesv6 Alloytec Garage

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    bwahahahahahaha

    dynos can lie

    a drag strip cant
    everyone knows this

    last time i checked - most ppl only brag about how much MAX HP they have

    last time i checked no one cared if your car has 300rwhp if you get beaten by a 160rwhp car down the 1/4
     
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    both are right, some people like to set there car up for drags, other like more mid range power, for better daily driving,

    a good tuner should be able to suit the needs of the driver
     
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    andyman The Only 6sp VZ Wagon

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    lol at this, i was thinking the same thing but couldnt be bothered getting into internet fights with people
     
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    car set suspension tyres driver track condition weather.... to many things to consider at the strip dyno attemps to measure what the powertrain is doing. i've been on 2 different dynos both read with in 3rwhp of each other. i know you impulse have had varied results but some reason QLD workshops all use different gears to measure.

    i still maintain dyno will show more acurrately what a powertrain is doing then the strip.

    in my mind the only real test of a car is a real race track not this yankie quarter mile crap. nurburgring seems all people care about these days what does quarter mile really prove nothing. a real track will show driver skill and real car performence as a package.

    not everyone wants to race at the track be it drag or circuit. so i don't see the problem with dynos. i know yous will sook about this but sometimes the facts upset people.

    And the drag strip can lie if it couldn't 10 different people in the 1 car on the one day would all record the same result yes?? i think not, do ten straight dyno runs hell even change operator i bet that the variation margin is much smaller.
     
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    lol you just got a **** 1/4 mile time didn't you :p

    Its the speed at the end of the 1/4 that shows you how much power you make. And yes it is more accurate than a dyno. A dyno is not real world conditions anyway, far from it and can be quite inaccurate. A 1/4 mile result is only as dependant on the driver as the dyno result is on the operator.
     
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    the race track aint that good, alot of people just build crap lots of power and not do a thing to the suspension to make it handle the power,

    dynos are a touchy subject mainly because of calibratrations, drag because of rollers, gear used in car etc etc
     
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    and if they do that they wont get a good time will they!
     
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    but thats what the quater miles for, its a base for people to compare time against others in a controlled-ish way, in a track your more biased towards testing the driver not the car

    anyway this has nothing to do with this topic, im rather interested to what have people achieved after a tune, either fwkw or rwkw
     
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    and 400m of good track at full throttle is "real world". i've seen cars from one meet to the next have bigger variations in mph at the end of the track then power output on a dyno. hell i've seen suspension setups and tyre choice change mph where it made no real difference on a dyno.
     
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    sorry when you said race track i took it as really racing not drag racing.
     
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    dude 'monaro327' let it go would ya, i posted this thread trying to find out some information, not so you can whinge about what you think is better!
     
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    man you people have issues, monaro327 is right, a drag strip cant tell you everything, you might be a **** driver, so you get a bad start, change gears at the wrong time, which will equal a bad time. does that mean his car has less power??? no, there are too many variables,

    and besides anyone can drive fast in a straight line, doesnt help when you get a corner
     
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    who really cares, im sure there is other threads for the drag vs dyno.. i wanna know what you people think, have got out of a VCM-suite tune, fark me dead!!
     
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    lol people are losing the plot all over the place at the moment :) but that's ok ... you're giving me something to do today ... slow day at the office.
     
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    impulsive Alloytec Racing

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    bugger this, ill post else where!
     
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    Dude, head over to LS1, people seem to respond more positively there instead of instantly going "hey mines bigger than yours and fck what you think, it wont help you solve your problem but who cares! wooooooo!"
     

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