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Learnt something new today - Handbrake

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by SabreOne, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. SabreOne

    SabreOne New Member

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    Purely by accident today! Probably in the manual, but anyway....

    As usual, got in, started my Ute, put it in Drive, and felt a little resistance, then drove off......thought hang on a minute, I didn't release the Handbrake, so I tried it again and sure enough the electronic Handbrake automatically releases........
     
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    Not as smooth as a merc though
     
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    Mine is quite smooth, I'm in a manual so the feeling might be different to an auto.
    It is fine to do, as long as you don't launch it there's no harm.

    I still prefer a manual handbrake.
     
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    It’s a documented feature but the owners manual recommends you still release it manually.
     
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    Mine releases with a bit of a clunk if i dont take it off manually
     
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    Don't make a habit of it, the Police liked doing it till it pulled the material clean off the handbrake shoes on a regular basis.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    I find it strange that you can stab the accelerator and release the handbrake, yet you get a warning message telling you to put your foot on the brake pedal to release it manually.
     
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    It’s because pressing the accelerator means you want the car to move, accidentally pushing down the park brake (maybe by a child) does not.
     
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    In my car the handbrake releases only when the clutch is partly let out and the accelerator is partly depressed. Otherwise it clunks when it is loaded up before the accelerator is depressed. You can hear the brake release when you activate both pedals.
     
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    You can't release the park brake without the key (in mine anyway). A child should not be left unattended in the car.
     
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    Is there a similar effect with the hill start function or does that operate with less clamping force?



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    I think the hill start uses the disc brakes via the ABS system. I also read, but I haven’t tried it, that if the EPB is applied when the car is moving, the disc brakes are used to slow it at 0.5G rather than using the handbrake system
     
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    I found this out quite by accident. I was parked in my driveway... nose pointing downhill towards the street. I had started the car (manual) had it in neutral. I still had the clutch down after starting it... then realised I had to move something on the back seat. As I reached around, my foot came off the clutch, and my other foot had pressed the accelerator slightly. The brakes released and I started rolling.

    Oops.
     
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    Shouldn’t be but they are all the time if the media is any indication.
     
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    Just out of couristy does your hand brake also take a noticeably 2 seconds to engage? The light comes up on the dash but when i have my foot on the brake and put it in park then handbrake it feels as if the park is holding it rather than the hand brake...
     
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    It does take awhile. I usually put the car in neutral, wait for the epb to kick in (which takes a second or two), take my foot off the brake and let the car rest on the handbrake, then shift into park.
     
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    Oh il have to do that. I feel like its ruining the gearbox. Its weird that you can hear the hanx brake too. Im assuming its the excuators
     
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    You must take into account that you are no longer timing the action of grabbing the handbrake lever, pushing the button then pulling the handbrake on. Flicking the switch is the start.
     

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