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Losh's VR Ute build thread

Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by losh1971, Nov 11, 2017.

  1. figjam

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    Nah. He needs something with Euro style and reliability, like an Alfa Brera AWD with the 3.2 Holden V6. What could go wrong there ?
    The idea is to park it in the driveway, it will look good, even when you can't drive anywhere in it.
     
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    You only need a shed when it rains or 40 degrees temp.
    Don't need the shed to change the coil packs & dfi.
    I can do that on the side of the road 10 - 15 minutes.
     
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    Yeah and I would have that size sitting in the roller cab too in a long socket. I just thought I will bring the cheap 1/4 metric short socket kit plus some extensions and surely one would fit but no such luck it was in between my smallest and the next one up, smallest too small, next one up too big..... I'm mindful of not carrying to much valuables in the ute. My ute is insured but my tools wouldn't be.
     
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    No don't need a shed to do this job. I was outside on the grass with my old table that sits under the tree and acts as a workbench of sorts. What you do need but is a safe place to keep your tools. That way you have everything at your disposal at the time you need it.
     
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    I had the same experience with the sockets. Went & bought 7/32 & put it in the 1/4 inch metric case, which sits in the car with a spare dfi & coil packs.
    Its got me out of the shxt. As mentioned before only takes 10 - 15 minutes to change the lot & no waiting for a tow home.
     
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    Yep, and it will look like a plumbers Ute then.
     
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    Yeah I'm gonna keep the old coils and DFI in the ute as spares Lex, in case I ever do have a break down. Probably buy a socket from Total Tools when I can get there next and just chuck it in the cantilever box that sits in the ute box with a few other cheap basic tools.
     
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    Spent the arvo and early evening today overhauling my rear brakes on the ute. Fitted new DBA street rotors QFM HPX pads, rebuilt the calipers and fitted two of the three rear braided lines and new shoes. I found one of the slide pins was seized so i had heat it with the Map torch to get it out. All good now plenty of slide grease so it shouldn't get stuck.
    Right now i am just waiting for the brakes to cool down before I head down the road to complete the bedding in.
    I found out i have leaking axle seal on the drivers side, so I haven't fitted the shoes on that side. I gave them a fair amount of adjustment so they are grabbing when the leaver is pulled. I reckon I won't have a go at the bearing and seal myself as it's a bit of mucking around and I would need some tooling for the press to get the new bearing and retainer on. Hoping that a mech can do the job in 2 hours or less so it doesn't cost me too much.
    I am suspecting that the woosh noise i hear from my diff may disappear once the bearing is replaced too.
    I would have liked to have fitted the middle braided line this eve but it's too dark and i don't want to get part way through and not be able to lock the shed because the ute is sticking through the entrance. I will aim to get it done in the morning.
    As for the brakes they were ok before but I can feel a fair improvement with moderate pedal. I think with all the braids fitted and the bedding in finished i will have substantially better brakes. I'm keen now to ditch the Bosch front rotors i have and fit the new slotteds. But i don't have a set of pads so that will happen in te next few months i suspect. I haven't checked the front pads yet but i reckon they must be getting close to needing replacement. 20190315_181915.jpg
     
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    Not hard to do rear bearings and seals.
    you should surely have something around ( improvise ) to suite pressing in and out ( can carefully cut old bearing almost all the way through to help getting off.
     
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    No roller cab or compressor here mate only a bearing press
     

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    Yeah i have been shown how to replace the bearing and seal on a Gemini. This is much the same. Just not sure i want too..... lol. Those shoes take a lot of patience and not sure i want to do the drivers side if i can pay some bastard to do it for me and it not cost me much.
     
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    Just fitted the middle braid line on the rear of the ute. Man solid pedal or what, engine running and some decent force and the pedal barely flexes. I now have to keep an eye out for leaks as the extra pressure will show up any week spots i suspect. Having said that i am very happy with the way it feels. I think emergency braking will be greatly improved now. Money well spent i reckon.
     
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    Just drove a 120km back to Town. Brakes have improved a lot. Not so much on light pedal but if you give it some pressure as you would if you need to stop quicker than usual; that's where you really notice it. I suspect that if I ever go the VT front upgrade light pedal braking would also be improved but I'm happy with how it is now. It's a fair bit safer than before.
     
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    Fitted a new DFI and hi output Gorst coils today. The old set up was working fine but I want to increase my gaps to 1.5mm and with the Gorst coils this won't be a problem. I noticed the old DFI had no heat sink paste on it, so I applied a thin layer, about a tablespoon worth, hopefully it's thick enough to do it's job. I still need to buy a new set of Bosch Platinum plugs and have them gapped prior to fitting but they can wait a few weeks as I want to finish the race bike in the next week or two.
    I still also need to loom at the leaking axle shaft seal and bearing but that will be a few weeks as well. Still undecided as to whether I slip the axle out and drop it off the have the bearing fitted or if I do the lot myself, or if I just drop it off and get a mech to do the lot. At the moment it's more of an annoyance that critical.
     
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    Why not ACDelco Platinum plugs?
    The VS has Platinum plugs 1.1 gap and cheap.
    I can only give you part number for the VS not sure if you can use them in the VR.
    19315810
     
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    I priced up the AC Delco Platinum and they wanted nearly $20 a plug at Motor's. I get a set of Bosch for under $30.
     
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    Bloody hell
     
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    Started the ute this eve and man those new coils made it fire in under a second. It sound like there was not even a full revolution before the engine started. It use to take 2 seconds so wasn't a long crank but I think the higher voltage coils must help with firing over what was in the bus previously, because it was like hit the key and instantly bang. Keen for some new plugs now with 1.5mm gaps and see how it fares.
     
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