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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by Jazzas202, May 15, 2014.

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    Ok so i have an o8 ve omega ute and as you know they are quite high especially the rear end so am thinking i need to bring it down to earth a bit. I am tossing up between a spring and shock combo or coilovers?

    I hear spring and shock will ride better and handle better but i like the idea of being able to adjust ride height so a few questions/

    1. Spring shock combo or coilovers?

    2. How much adjustment in height are in coilovers?

    3. How much will each cost fitted?
     
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    1. A good shock and spring combo can out do some coilovers. If you want the best, Bilstein shocks with H&R springs will get you a very nice ride along with handling.
    2. Coilovers have lot's of height adjustment.
    3. Shocks and spring would be cheaper than coilovers as there's no need to adjust them. Not sure on price though, I'm guessing $200 to $500?
     
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    Ive had a look at king springs and they claim a 50mm drop all round with superlows. Are H&R different or the same drop? If i can find a height im happy with then springs and shocks will do its just a daily
     
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    If you can't afford Bilsteins then get KYB shocks. Those are sports shocks or you can get comfort shocks like Boge. Superlow's won't drop it by 50mm, more like 10mm. Get SSL all around if it's a daily. I'm not sure of H&R springs drop. Send GSL Rally sport an email, they'll be more than happy to help you out.
     
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    also, take a look through here, find an Omega or SV6 ute with the height you like, then contact GSL Rally sport a PM for quote and to confirm King Spring model numbers will give you the height you're after.

    http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-holden-commodore-2006-2013/152423-king-springs-ves.html

    Also, super lows MAY drop your car by upto 50mm, as it's an omega, not an SV6.

    Measure your centre of hub to guard - this info will also be useful for GSL Rally sport
    here's some heights they posted a while ago: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...6-2013/128985-lowering-ve-ss.html#post1469360
     
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    Thanks for the help guys will send them a message!
     
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    Coilovers will come built in the box and the fronts are 3 bolts each side to remove and install new struts. Adjusting height is easy and you can do it at home so don't worry about getting the mechanic to do it, so long as its even for the drive home. The rear is 6 bolts and a little bit more effort to install.

    To do new shock and springs. It's the same process but more labour. As the factory struts need to come out. But need to be stripped of spring and shock, install new shock and spring and re-fitted to Vechial.

    You have no adjustment so if you get the wrong height or spring rate (usually there's only two offered, standard n HD) your stuck with them. With the Coilovers, well with mine I have around 70-80mm of height adjustment and 16 damper adjustments (to make the shock softer or stiffer. AND it makes a huge difference)

    End of the day it's personal preferences and really how often would you play with the adjustments once your happy with the ride.
     
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    Yeah thats it i reckon once i was happy i would leave it. I just dont wanna go too low for daily use so was thinking sl front and ssl rear to keep it realistic anyone got pics of this on a ve ute?
     
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    check the catalogue again:-

    - the matching FRONT from SSL REAR (ie: KHRL-152SSL+) in is: Ultra low FRONT (ie KHFL-150SSSL+)
    (http://www.kingsprings.com/catalogue/kings_master_catalogue.pdf)

    - there is no FRONT SL for V6 ute, there is for a V8 (as engine is slightly heavier than the V6
    (http://www.kingsprings.com/catalogue/kings_master_catalogue.pdf)

    Rule of thumb for Kings Springs and VE V6's : the front need to be 1 level lower than rear - as per catalogue.
    If you think this sounds wrong? Talk to someone that sells Kings Springs (ie phone GSL Rallysport: 1300 884 836), they'll confirm this - which they did for me.


    example 1: SV6 sedan with SSL all round, rear is lower: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...13/152423-king-springs-ves-3.html#post1701189
    example 2: SV6 ute with SSSL all round, rear is lower: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...13/152423-king-springs-ves-5.html#post1744338
    example 3: SV6 sedan with SSSL front and SSL rear, level: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...3/152423-king-springs-ves-11.html#post1894513
     
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    That's a rule of thumb for all VB-VZ commodores. VEs are different!!

    ^^^^ that's is true And V8s are the same height spring all round. Even a lot go one step/stage lower in the front of the 8s too
     
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    Oh right everyone says different. Lots have said ssl front and sssl rear but i don't want ultras so i though sl front and ssl rear.
     
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    does 'everyone' sell suspension ;)
    didn't think so, phone site sponsor GSL Rallysport: 1300 884 836
    they've helped me in the past and i've never heard anything bad mentioned about them

    tell them what you want.
    also, you'd be suprised how close they get cost wise versus buying springs of ebay.
    as for shocks, get them to explain the difference between KYB and Boge.

    at the end of the day, this is an Omega ute that you've got on your P's that you want to look good ie you don't need to consider Bilstein's or coil overs (unless you're rolling in cash and wanted and Omega over an SV6 ute!)

    also, did you ever find out about your tyres? ie 225-55/17?
    the reason i ask is, lowered on 17's looks good: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-wm/231833-newbie-new-commodore.html#post2616565
    lowered on 19's or bigger looks great! http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-wm/231833-newbie-new-commodore.html#post2617066
    (sorry, only example i could find was a wagon not a ute...nb SSSL on Front, SSL on Read - once again, 1 level lower on front to make the car look level, just sayin' ;))
     
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    I got the omega cause it was only 11,000$ and has the same 6 speed manual and 195kw high output v6 that the sv6 has and sorry didn't check tires will get back to you on that!
     
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    pm sent ...
     
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    Ultras all round

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    Can't you imagine if the front was One stage higher (15-20mm) it'd look stupid!! Same if the back was another step lower then the front.

    VEs have completely different suspenion and heights to previous Comoodores. Look through the "king springs for VEs" thread pick a height and copy it. Decide on a good shock and done.

    Or drop $2000 on Coilovers, spend a day installing them (like I have now) and you can adjust the height depending on your mood or Vechial needs. Adjust the ride from soft to stiff depending on if your crusing the highway or at the strip or race track for some fun.
     
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    Thanks for the tips mate
     
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    The Omega has always been 180 killer wasps stock?
     
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    wrong...

    180 neck snapping kilowatts for the auto

    but, for the manual (in omega ute only), it gets the high output: 2007 Holden VE Omega Ute review | CarAdvice

    (fyi - i also just learnt from this thread that the manual omega ute gets teh HO V6 :))
     
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    So they're all 180 except the manual ute?
     
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    That's correct
     

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