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Lowering VF2 SSV Redline Sedan

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by VinnieLS3, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. LS1SS

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    That is why I moved the circlip up on my rear Bilstiens even with no fuel it sat level,with a full tank and **** in the boot it would look like it’s dragging it arse on the ground.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up JohnRedline. Certainly appreciate anything that helps to point in the right direction. LS1SS, I looked at Eibachs a while back but was put off by issues others where having with rear ride heights, especially on VF 2's. Paulie81 went back to them a lot of times trying to get them to explain why he had such a large discrepancy from their indicated ride height of 370mm center to Guard all round. He ended up with 360mm at the back and 375mm at the front after it all settled. I thought going to Bilstein shocks and adjusting the rear clips would help overcome that so I'd be keen to see how that went for you. No doubt a great combo ride and handling wise.
     
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    This is what mine looked like with Eibach pro kit and stock FE3 struts. Ride was crap and so it’s back to original stock FE3 now. When Holden dealer put back the original springs, they found damaged struts. Those stock struts are not matched to the eibach springs according to holden and I think they are right. It didn’t feel right on the road. I am now going to try either pedders sports Ryder shocks with the eibach springs or maybe bilstein with the eibach springs. I just like the support network with pedders. What you guys think? Pedders or bilstein?
     
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    Bilstein's or Koni's.
     
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    I made some enquiries with Pedders around spring rates, shocks etc some time back and didn't get much value out of them from a technical perspective whereas Bilstein, Eibach and H&R gave me heaps of info. I think their workshops are generally pretty good and really helpful, so understand your confidence there but anyone using Bilstein shocks have nothing but praise for their performance. Pretty much says it all I think.
     
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    I do agree. You would have to think bilstein is better than pedders shocks. Pedders told me eibach springs are an excellent match for their sports Ryder shocks but I suppose what else would they say! I’d rather match bilstein with eibach and by the way, the pedders shocks are not that much cheaper. They quoted me $1900 for the shocks installed including new mounts and bearings and I supply the eibach springs.
     
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    I had Bilsteins in my old Subaru Liberty (not factory spec) and they were great. However, I found the service from Bilstein in Sydney (Heasman's I think they are on the Princes Hwy near the airport) to be terrible, where most others have found them great.
     
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    That is my worry too. With pedders, warranty is covered at any of the Oz wide outlets. Horses for courses I suppose. Anybody want to swap a white wing spoiler for a black lip spoiler?
     
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    Having just put Bilstiens and Eibach springs in,Shepbloke is rite,front 375 rear 360 with circlip in the centre groove,put circlip on the top groove and it lifts the rear to 380 with low fuel lite on and empty boot,after the weekend I shall fill up and see measure the height again,when I had just Eibach springs in with std shocks it sat at 370 all round and had a jiggly ride I didn’t like,with Bs and Es in it rides nice,even girl friend noticed it now rides better which surprised me as didn’t know cars had springs.
     
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    Ha Ha, that's gold. At least she isn't given you a hard time about why you changed it :)
    When you get a chance, post some pics with is raised at the back, would like to see how that came up. Do you think it has settled yet though?
     
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    I have decided to go H&R Street performance + coilovers. I don’t want to risk installing bilsteins and eibach and then having that ‘tail heavy’ look. H&R are one of the best out there so the final results should be just fine.
     
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    Great choice. Bigjim92 has those on his ride and loves them with a passion. They are pricey but definitely high quality and the adjustable height thing means you can get exactly what. I gather that you'll be ditching the Eibachs then?
     
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    Yes, I have asked Heasman if they want to buy them off me.
     
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    If they sold you the Eibachs, hopefully they'll trade them or look after you on price with the H&R's
     
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    Do we know if these H&R Coilovers are noisy or make squeaks during driving or any brand of coilovers for that matter?
     
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    H&R along with KW are big with the euro boys.

    They are very popular as aftermarket coilovers with the Yanks for their BMW’s and Mercs and I’ve not heard anyone complaining about noise.





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    JohnRedline, I would PM Bigjim92 if you want to know about the J&R coilovers? He's had them on for quite some time, so would be able to tell you if there are any issues at all. When I spoke to him, he had nothing but praise as a long term user of the product and gave a good description of how they ride and handle.
     
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    The very old Bilstein coil overs I had some 20 years ago would chatter a lot. They had no rubber isolation between the fixed upper and adjustable lower spring seat and the spring itself. Also these coil overs had a small spring follower connecting the main upper spring and lower flat wound retaining spring which added further to the chatter as it jiggled over the main body threads on bumps

    So I’m also curious whether the current crop of coil overs are much better in their design these days so let us know when you find out.
     
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    Actually, I have changed my mind. Going with bilstein shocks and eibach springs (I already own the springs). That will do me and a bit cheaper too. Will post photos when it’s done.
     
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    Nice. Very interested in the shocks. I’m thinking King springs though.

    Honestly I had Monroe short shocks and SL Kings and they were quite good on the Calais wagon. Ride was solid without being harsh.
     

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