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Lowering VF2 SSV Redline Sedan

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by VinnieLS3, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. JohnRedline

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    Bilstein have new shocks out for the VF now. No welding at all is required. That’s why I changed my mind. Plus, not sure I want to stuff around with all those adjustments on coilovers etc.
     
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    Im still running the Eibacks on FE3. I wouldn't mind looking at getting the B8's put in at some point to get that back raised just a bit and overall better ride. Approx how much do you think it would cost me for B8's supply and fitted? Do you recommend anyone in Sydney to do the Job? Also are you changing any of the factory bushings etc?
     
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    east coast suspension usually come recommended
     
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    IMO, I wouldn’t go to east coast. I am paying about $2000 but I provide the eibach springs. Bilsteins are not cheap so they better be worth it! The shop I am going to are good blokes. Don’t listen to what suspension places tell you when they say eibach match the FE3. They don’t and yes, the ride is crap for that reason. My stock shocks got damaged as a result of trying that method on the recommendation of pedders. I got the Holden dealer to restore the FE3 and they showed me the damage. If you are gonna lower, at a minimum, it needs good short travel shocks and matching lowering springs and accept the firmer ride. I like the ride firmer so not worried about that. I learned the hard way because these shops just want your money and they know you’ll be back when you realise the ride is crap! Now, I just hope the back won’t sit to low with bilsteins. Will post photos when it’s done. Getting done this Monday.
     
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    interesting about east coast
    price sounds about right, sydney suspension in penrith i think quoted me 2700 for bilsteins with h&r springs
     
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    Spoke to a guy the other day who does suspension work for V8 supercars. He explained why Eibach & H&R don't go so well with FE3 and it made perfect sense. Euro guys have a different approach to spring and shock rates (stiffer springs and softer shocks). Mainly due to very different driving conditions. high speeds and quality roads. Aussie conditions can throw up almost anything so have softer spring rates but stiff shock valving, hence they don't marry up well.
     
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    So does he think bilsteins and eibach are a good match for Aussie roads?
     
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    In short, yes. Just have to realise there would be some level of limitation. Car companies have to cover all the bases for what you are likely do with the vehicle and in Australia, that's a lot of variation. In this case, where most of us are only going to be in mostly ideal circumstances, not going to be an issue.
     
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    I got the Bilstein/Eibach installed today. First impression is the ride is great and car feels great and much better than stock. However the back end fender gap is less than the front and I think this creates an illusion that the car is tail heavy but I like the way it sits. Heasman struck me as being very professional. I thought all the staff I engaged with were great. Certainly no problem going there.
     
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    So if you like the lower rear end look go for the Eibach. I’ll stick with Kings for an even look. Pair with Bilsteins I think.
     
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    As I mentioned before put the circlip on top groove and it takes it from 360 from rim centre to guard to 380 with empty tank,tank 3/4 full drops rear to 370 just nice.
     
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    Sounds good JohnRedline. Glad you're happy with how it worked out.
    LS1SS, have you got any pics yet with the circlip on the top?
     
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    Is it easy to move the circlip or do I need to take it back to them?
     
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    I rang around first to see how easy it was to move the circlip,every one said easy no traps so went ahead and found it super easy with flat face circlip pliers,I did mine by spring compressors,tighten compressors up then let lower control arm drop via jack,move collar up and just move circlip up to top notch,real easy with out disassembly of suspension,car is nice and tight firm,my old VK Brockets Commodore rode about about the same,very happy with the result,370 front and rear,shall take some fotos soon.
     
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    This is how mine sits.
    Comments welcome!
     

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    I wonder if the weight of the rear spoiler plays any role in the rear ride height. Would a car with lip spoiler sit differently? I guess this would depend on how much the spoiler weighs.

    Anyway car looks very nice and thanks for sharing. It is very helpful for people still trying to make up their minds on how to lower their car. For me, I am not keen on just lowering springs because many have mentioned that the ride is not great. I would prefer to do springs and shocks as you have done.
     
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    Don’t even think about just doing springs. Trust me, it’s crap and it will be a waste of money. I have been there done that! These bilsteins feel great. I am very happy. Ride is firmer than stock but in a nice way. Here’s another angle. I am very happy with how it sits, rides and handles.
     

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    It needs to come down a little at the front.




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    Ideally yes, but that’s what one gets with eibach. I still like it and wouldn’t want the front any lower. Best to go with coilovers if one wants total control over ride heights but for a daily drive, I didn’t want all those moving parts on a coilover and the resultant risk of getting noises and squeaks which can happen. The bilsteins and eibach are so far very quiet. What have you got on the Ute?
     
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    Coilovers

    360mm from hub centre to guard lip all round.
    You can see the ride height in post #14 on the first page of this thread.




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